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From the guidelines: "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." So far, the only device (that I'm aware

by younata 15y ago

From the guidelines: "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." So far, the only device (that I'm aware of) from Apple that had a wait between the product launch and the sdk launch was the original iphone. Everything else, as far as I know, had an sdk launched way before the product was launched. As for your downvotes: I'm sorry, but as has been stated previously, we value technical accuracy.

nicholas1987 15y ago
You're agreeing with me and proving my point:"So far, the only device (that I'm aware of) from Apple that had a wait between the product launch and the sdk launch was the original iphone. Everything else, as far as I know, had an sdk launched way before the product was launched." That's exactly my point, so thanks for agreeing with me. I don't think there was anything wrong or inaccurate with my comment--anyone guessing why Apple does or doesn't do something is going to have fairly equal odds. Also for your smugness, not needed, not helpful, not necessary. And, Michael Brindle-- you're not even logically consistent: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2622617 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2622617 I guess I shouldn't feel bad though, you're not exactly brilliant yourself: http://www.okcupid.com:900/profile/younata http://www.okcupid.com:900/profile/younata http://twitter.com/#!/younata http://twitter.com/#!/younata http://younata.blogspot.com/ http://younata.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/younata http://www.youtube.com/user/younata https://github.com/younata https://github.com/younata http://www.last.fm/user/younata http://www.last.fm/user/younata http://forums.humansvszombies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2861 http://forums.humansvszombies.org/index.php?action=profile;u... http://blog.michaelbrindle.com/ http://blog.michaelbrindle.com/ http://www.gaiaonline.com/profiles/younata/501513/ http://www.gaiaonline.com/profiles/younata/501513/ http://morde.deviantart.com/art/Younata-44411069 http://morde.deviantart.com/art/Younata-44411069
- justLeave 15y ago
  Wow. You simply got modded down and someone indicated why (who might not have been someone who actually downmodded you), but instead of tactfully asking why or restating your position in a better way or just changing course, you said "nuh-uh", and reverted to personal attacks, trying to 'reveal' someone's identity to dig up info on someone to disparage them, and insulting the community at large? You might wanna rethink your approach.
  - nicholas1987 15y ago
    No, he told me how I was wrong, while agreeing with the entire thing I put forward. I wasn't the jerk first, look at my original comment, it's not taking a side or favoring anyone--then what happens?
    - ddfisher 15y ago
      While I too find it odd that your original comment was downmodded (has it been edited?), I don't think that a personal attack is an appropriate response. It doesn't seem like younata was being a jerk (from my reading of the comments), but your response is a bit vitriolic even if he was. From your comment history, I speculate that you - like me - are a long-time reader and only an occasional poster. These posts stand out as being unusually negative. I'd urge you to strongly consider changing your tone (and perhaps deleting your posts in this thread). Don't let this one altercation drive you away from the community. Best -- David
      - nicholas1987 15y ago
        The first comment has not been edited. Long time reader, yes, hardly every comment, though. I take offense here: As for your downvotes: I'm sorry, but as has been stated previously, we value technical accuracy. It's needlessly smug, flippant and dismissive, as well as hypocritical seeing as how he's accusing me of being wrong about a product that is yet to exist (so we're both speculating) all the while he agrees with the point I originally made, but is too stupid to realize it.
        scott_s 15y ago
        The written word does not communicate tone well. We easily project our own emotions onto what someone else said because it lacks vocal tone and facial cues. This is even more pronounced when the writing is a criticism. I saw no smugness or flippancy in the statement. I do, however, find your reaction unacceptable, and I flagged the comment which has since been deleted. We try to be civil here, so give other people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to your perception of their tone. It makes for a nicer place.

by younata 15y ago

nicholas1987 15y ago

You're agreeing with me and proving my point:"So far, the only device (that I'm aware of) from Apple that had a wait between the product launch and the sdk launch was the original iphone. Everything else, as far as I know, had an sdk launched way before the product was launched." That's exactly my point, so thanks for agreeing with me. I don't think there was anything wrong or inaccurate with my comment--anyone guessing why Apple does or doesn't do something is going to have fairly equal odds. Also for your smugness, not needed, not helpful, not necessary. And, Michael Brindle-- you're not even logically consistent: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2622617 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2622617 I guess I shouldn't feel bad though, you're not exactly brilliant yourself: http://www.okcupid.com:900/profile/younata http://www.okcupid.com:900/profile/younata http://twitter.com/#!/younata http://twitter.com/#!/younata http://younata.blogspot.com/ http://younata.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/younata http://www.youtube.com/user/younata https://github.com/younata https://github.com/younata http://www.last.fm/user/younata http://www.last.fm/user/younata http://forums.humansvszombies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2861 http://forums.humansvszombies.org/index.php?action=profile;u... http://blog.michaelbrindle.com/ http://blog.michaelbrindle.com/ http://www.gaiaonline.com/profiles/younata/501513/ http://www.gaiaonline.com/profiles/younata/501513/ http://morde.deviantart.com/art/Younata-44411069 http://morde.deviantart.com/art/Younata-44411069

justLeave 15y ago
Wow. You simply got modded down and someone indicated why (who might not have been someone who actually downmodded you), but instead of tactfully asking why or restating your position in a better way or just changing course, you said "nuh-uh", and reverted to personal attacks, trying to 'reveal' someone's identity to dig up info on someone to disparage them, and insulting the community at large? You might wanna rethink your approach.
- nicholas1987 15y ago
  No, he told me how I was wrong, while agreeing with the entire thing I put forward. I wasn't the jerk first, look at my original comment, it's not taking a side or favoring anyone--then what happens?
  - ddfisher 15y ago
    While I too find it odd that your original comment was downmodded (has it been edited?), I don't think that a personal attack is an appropriate response. It doesn't seem like younata was being a jerk (from my reading of the comments), but your response is a bit vitriolic even if he was. From your comment history, I speculate that you - like me - are a long-time reader and only an occasional poster. These posts stand out as being unusually negative. I'd urge you to strongly consider changing your tone (and perhaps deleting your posts in this thread). Don't let this one altercation drive you away from the community. Best -- David
    - nicholas1987 15y ago
      The first comment has not been edited. Long time reader, yes, hardly every comment, though. I take offense here: As for your downvotes: I'm sorry, but as has been stated previously, we value technical accuracy. It's needlessly smug, flippant and dismissive, as well as hypocritical seeing as how he's accusing me of being wrong about a product that is yet to exist (so we're both speculating) all the while he agrees with the point I originally made, but is too stupid to realize it.
      - scott_s 15y ago
        The written word does not communicate tone well. We easily project our own emotions onto what someone else said because it lacks vocal tone and facial cues. This is even more pronounced when the writing is a criticism. I saw no smugness or flippancy in the statement. I do, however, find your reaction unacceptable, and I flagged the comment which has since been deleted. We try to be civil here, so give other people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to your perception of their tone. It makes for a nicer place.