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TL;DR?

Daho0n 6y ago
You can't say racist words. Not even to ask "did she really say <bad word>?" because then you said it yourself and hence you are a racist. It's woke America.
- tsimionescu 6y ago
  The TLDR is 'don't argue with woke, entitled, powerful/rich teens'. Especially don't do it by being nuanced in your usage of racial slurs - it will go over their heads and it's likely to bite you in the ass.
- eli 6y ago
  According to the person who got fired. That's not how the other people there describe it.
  - djrogers 6y ago
    > That's not how the other people there describe it. Easy to say, but we don't actually have any details reported from any first hadn't accounts other than this one...
    - eli 6y ago
      The original story that started this all spoke to multiple of the students on the trip and has more details: https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-donald-mcneil-accused-of-using-n-word-making-other-racist-comments https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-d...
  - sir_bearington 6y ago
    No, other people who describe it were clear that McNeil used the word in reference not as a pejorative. Even the NY Times' own coverage said that he did not use the word as an insult.
    - eli 6y ago
      His employer has incentive to minimize what he did. In any event, his conduct caused multiple students to independently complain. Here’s what one of the students who was there wrote > “He used the ‘N’ word, said horrible things about black teenagers, and said white supremacy doesn’t exist.” Perhaps that’s not what he meant but it’s what multiple people who were there heard. https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-donald-mcneil-accused-of-using-n-word-making-other-racist-comments https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-d...
      - sir_bearington 6y ago
        From an anonymous teenager. And even then this source only says "He used the `N` word" not that he actually called a Black person the word as a pejorative.
      - bootlooped 6y ago
        The most ridiculous line from the article, from the NY Times speaking about their review of the incident: > "We found he had used bad judgment by repeating a racist slur in the context of a conversation about racist language." If you can't speak a slur in the context of a conversation about racist language, when can you? In what possible conversation would it be more appropriate?
        throwaway210222 6y ago
        > If you can't speak a slur in the context of a conversation about racist language, when can you? Rap and/or hip-hop + the politically-approved ancestry.

TL;DR?

You can't say racist words. Not even to ask "did she really say <bad word>?" because then you said it yourself and hence you are a racist. It's woke America.

tsimionescu 6y ago
The TLDR is 'don't argue with woke, entitled, powerful/rich teens'. Especially don't do it by being nuanced in your usage of racial slurs - it will go over their heads and it's likely to bite you in the ass.
eli 6y ago
According to the person who got fired. That's not how the other people there describe it.
- djrogers 6y ago
  > That's not how the other people there describe it. Easy to say, but we don't actually have any details reported from any first hadn't accounts other than this one...
  - eli 6y ago
    The original story that started this all spoke to multiple of the students on the trip and has more details: https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-donald-mcneil-accused-of-using-n-word-making-other-racist-comments https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-d...
- sir_bearington 6y ago
  No, other people who describe it were clear that McNeil used the word in reference not as a pejorative. Even the NY Times' own coverage said that he did not use the word as an insult.
  - eli 6y ago
    His employer has incentive to minimize what he did. In any event, his conduct caused multiple students to independently complain. Here’s what one of the students who was there wrote > “He used the ‘N’ word, said horrible things about black teenagers, and said white supremacy doesn’t exist.” Perhaps that’s not what he meant but it’s what multiple people who were there heard. https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-donald-mcneil-accused-of-using-n-word-making-other-racist-comments https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-d...
    - sir_bearington 6y ago
      From an anonymous teenager. And even then this source only says "He used the `N` word" not that he actually called a Black person the word as a pejorative.
    - bootlooped 6y ago
      The most ridiculous line from the article, from the NY Times speaking about their review of the incident: > "We found he had used bad judgment by repeating a racist slur in the context of a conversation about racist language." If you can't speak a slur in the context of a conversation about racist language, when can you? In what possible conversation would it be more appropriate?
      - throwaway210222 6y ago
        > If you can't speak a slur in the context of a conversation about racist language, when can you? Rap and/or hip-hop + the politically-approved ancestry.