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> Socially its way better than evading any consequences or getting a bogus sentence like case dismissal because some formality mistake. But he is getting away

by tpush 6y ago

> Socially its way better than evading any consequences or getting a bogus sentence like case dismissal because some formality mistake. But he is getting away without any (real) consequences. Being sentenced guilty without much punishment does exactly nothing to deter a politician from committing crimes, nor does it stop citizens from losing trust in their institutions.

agumonkey 6y ago
Hmm not in my book. It's surely minuscule, but he's now labelled as guilty. It's a stain, your reputation is lower, some people may avoid you. Who wants to spend time with a convicted person ?
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- adolph 6y ago
  Here is example n of infinite: Microsoft founder and multibillionaire Bill Gates said Wednesday that he “made a mistake” meeting with convicted sex criminal and wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein to discuss philanthropy. Gates met with Epstein multiple times – including in 2013 while he was the chairman of Microsoft – years after the disgraced financier had struck a plea deal on prostitution related charges filed by Florida prosecutors in 2008. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/bill-gates-says-i-made-a-mistake-meeting-with-jeffrey-epstein.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/bill-gates-says-i-made-a-mis...
- Agingcoder 6y ago
  In France, a surprisingly large number of people, probably because our reputation for bending rules is well-deserved. The number of high profile politicians who got re-elected after being sentenced is very high. Alain Juppe was even about to run for president, in spite of not having an exactly pristine record. If you're curious about the kind of surreal scandals which happened 25 years ago, the helicopter affair is my favorite one (you'll have to scroll down to the 'controversial' section) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Toubon?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Toubon?wprov=sfla1 It's no surprise in this context that it took forever to sentence Jacques Chirac! Things have been slowly changing over the past 10 years though, with popular opinion being less tolerant.

by tpush 6y ago

agumonkey 6y ago

Hmm not in my book. It's surely minuscule, but he's now labelled as guilty. It's a stain, your reputation is lower, some people may avoid you. Who wants to spend time with a convicted person ?

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adolph 6y ago
Here is example n of infinite: Microsoft founder and multibillionaire Bill Gates said Wednesday that he “made a mistake” meeting with convicted sex criminal and wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein to discuss philanthropy. Gates met with Epstein multiple times – including in 2013 while he was the chairman of Microsoft – years after the disgraced financier had struck a plea deal on prostitution related charges filed by Florida prosecutors in 2008. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/bill-gates-says-i-made-a-mistake-meeting-with-jeffrey-epstein.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/bill-gates-says-i-made-a-mis...
Agingcoder 6y ago
In France, a surprisingly large number of people, probably because our reputation for bending rules is well-deserved. The number of high profile politicians who got re-elected after being sentenced is very high. Alain Juppe was even about to run for president, in spite of not having an exactly pristine record. If you're curious about the kind of surreal scandals which happened 25 years ago, the helicopter affair is my favorite one (you'll have to scroll down to the 'controversial' section) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Toubon?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Toubon?wprov=sfla1 It's no surprise in this context that it took forever to sentence Jacques Chirac! Things have been slowly changing over the past 10 years though, with popular opinion being less tolerant.