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I don't know about that. Firstly, Gruber recently pulled up "claim chowder" for someone in 2001 who thought that Apple had a tough time to rebuild their compan

I don't know about that. Firstly, Gruber recently pulled up "claim chowder" for someone in 2001 who thought that Apple had a tough time to rebuild their company and would fail. Is that such a crazy idea back in 2001? It's only with the bias of what happened since that might make you believe it was crazy. It wasn't crazy though, it was wrong, but not crazy. edit: I can't find the Gates one changed my example. I like the real claim chowder by Gruber, not so much the fake stuff. And he did say, in April 2011, that wifi was too slow for syncing. That's not very long ago, nothing has changed for wifi since then. So he is guilty of it right? Secondly, it's not just wifi, we're talking about ISPs and broadband syncing to Apple's servers. So that's even more elaborate than Gruber thought was impossible. Edit: example from 2001 http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/05/20/alsin-claim-chowder http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/05/20/alsin-claim-chow...

tptacek 15y ago
In 2001, this analyst declared "The game is effectively over", strongly advising his readers not to buy AAPL. Here is what happened to people who ignored that advice: http://j.mp/iVrc6o http://j.mp/iVrc6o Presumably because Circuit City was one of Jim Collin's "Good to Great" companies, this same analyst was telling people to buy Circuit City. I'd show you that graph but for some reason I can't find it. Here's an approximation: http://j.mp/mj77CD http://j.mp/mj77CD Message board geeks get a pass for doubting Apple in 2001, sure. But stock market analysts who give ludicrously bad advice deserve all the chowder Gruber can dump on them. Bad example.
- napierzaza 15y ago
  That's still based on what happened. Apple was declining for a long time. He was surely wrong, and if you sold your stock then you lost because of him. Stock market speculation is already BS because so much is random. I think "claim chowder" is crap if you don't call it fake in the moment. Going back with the bias of what happened and see who was wrong isn't particularly titillating. Gruber has done a lot of good CC, but this isn't one of them.

tptacek 15y ago

In 2001, this analyst declared "The game is effectively over", strongly advising his readers not to buy AAPL. Here is what happened to people who ignored that advice: http://j.mp/iVrc6o http://j.mp/iVrc6o Presumably because Circuit City was one of Jim Collin's "Good to Great" companies, this same analyst was telling people to buy Circuit City. I'd show you that graph but for some reason I can't find it. Here's an approximation: http://j.mp/mj77CD http://j.mp/mj77CD Message board geeks get a pass for doubting Apple in 2001, sure. But stock market analysts who give ludicrously bad advice deserve all the chowder Gruber can dump on them. Bad example.

napierzaza 15y ago
That's still based on what happened. Apple was declining for a long time. He was surely wrong, and if you sold your stock then you lost because of him. Stock market speculation is already BS because so much is random. I think "claim chowder" is crap if you don't call it fake in the moment. Going back with the bias of what happened and see who was wrong isn't particularly titillating. Gruber has done a lot of good CC, but this isn't one of them.