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First of all, I'm not against porn, but most of reddit porn isn't empowering people, it's selling onlyfans or posting women against their will. Google is compli

First of all, I'm not against porn, but most of reddit porn isn't empowering people, it's selling onlyfans or posting women against their will. Google is complicit with so called revenge porn as well. If you disagree, explain why they have crawlers indexing and doing facial recognition on porn sites that have an absolute buttload of revenge porn shit, like xhamster, 4chan archives, and motherless. It's a fucking travesty, and pornhub was just the tip of the exploitative spear, later reddit will ban porn unless it's verified, because the ny times or wapo will post an article about a dozen women being victimized by revenge porn on there.

core-questions 6y ago
I am interested in hearing what you would do about this if you were in charge. Want to elaborate?
- lambda_obrien 6y ago
  In charge of what? There's a lot of different problems I commented on there.
  - vxNsr 6y ago
    It’s an invitation to pose a slippery slope argument so that s/he can tear it down, I’d just ignore it.
    - core-questions 6y ago
      It honestly isn't. I just feel like I am losing touch with the range of opinions on this issue and want to get some elaboration into something that's outside of my normal filter bubble.
      - lambda_obrien 6y ago
        Personally, I think amateur posters need to be verified somehow, but there's really nothing you can do to prevent the sharing of photos, but you just need to squash it on the major platforms to slow it immensely. Also, if the governments of the world went after revenge porn like copyright laws, it could take do a lot to push it out of the mainstream, even if not eliminating completely. I think the porn industry needs to do a lot more as well and they made their bed then shit in it by allowing unverified posting, so they're going to get fucked in that case.
gremlinsinc 6y ago
> First of all, I'm not against porn, but most of reddit porn isn't empowering people, it's selling onlyfans A mom loses her husband to covid at 40. Hasn't worked in 20 years, she's decent looking, a little risky, so she decides to give OnlyFans a shot as a way to empower herself to feed her family. Would it be better she go apply at strip clubs that are a bit more seedier and less anonymous and give her less control over her paycheck/livelihood? How is this different than a youtube star sharing their content? Should we just not allow any original content at all? > later reddit will ban porn unless it's verified Many of the top subs (all the gonewild, realgirls, teen but legal type subs) do require verification processes to ensure legal and unique original content. I can't say if there's much victimization or exploitative ops on there, haven't really looked and don't care to because I'm afraid of what exists on Reddit I don't already know about that's bad enough: like https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech <-- not porn, still not safe for sanity or life in general... I'd hope anything with cp or the likes would get caught and shut down, and anything with rape (real OR fake), and revenge porn, etc... But there's some reddits where people post (often) anonymously to boost their self-image too like /r/NormalNudes which describes itself as: "Normal Nudes is an effort to have users submit their own pictures in order to build a library of what normal, every day human bodies look like. We should strive to love our bodies for what they are, and understand there are MANY healthy body types that are beautiful that don't necessarily conform to the standards we might see in magazines or on television." I don't think there's ever going to be a perfect way for society to embrace the seedier side of things, and also police everything bad and still retain a "free" censorship-free (as much as can be expected and safe) ... but honestly I think Reddit does better than Tumblr or Twitter which are less structured on how they moderate things being less "topical" and less about multiple communities. I think the best bet is probably have a board of porn overseers that basically are defacto mods in all porn subs and can override any other mod-and act swiftly when an issue comes to their attention. That would probably be the best they could possibly do.
- lambda_obrien 6y ago
  I don't want to get into it, but I've spent about 2 years investigating this ecosystem and it's pretty shocking how vast it is. Not sure anyone can do anything.

core-questions 6y ago

I am interested in hearing what you would do about this if you were in charge. Want to elaborate?

lambda_obrien 6y ago
In charge of what? There's a lot of different problems I commented on there.
- vxNsr 6y ago
  It’s an invitation to pose a slippery slope argument so that s/he can tear it down, I’d just ignore it.
  - core-questions 6y ago
    It honestly isn't. I just feel like I am losing touch with the range of opinions on this issue and want to get some elaboration into something that's outside of my normal filter bubble.
    - lambda_obrien 6y ago
      Personally, I think amateur posters need to be verified somehow, but there's really nothing you can do to prevent the sharing of photos, but you just need to squash it on the major platforms to slow it immensely. Also, if the governments of the world went after revenge porn like copyright laws, it could take do a lot to push it out of the mainstream, even if not eliminating completely. I think the porn industry needs to do a lot more as well and they made their bed then shit in it by allowing unverified posting, so they're going to get fucked in that case.

gremlinsinc 6y ago

> First of all, I'm not against porn, but most of reddit porn isn't empowering people, it's selling onlyfans A mom loses her husband to covid at 40. Hasn't worked in 20 years, she's decent looking, a little risky, so she decides to give OnlyFans a shot as a way to empower herself to feed her family. Would it be better she go apply at strip clubs that are a bit more seedier and less anonymous and give her less control over her paycheck/livelihood? How is this different than a youtube star sharing their content? Should we just not allow any original content at all? > later reddit will ban porn unless it's verified Many of the top subs (all the gonewild, realgirls, teen but legal type subs) do require verification processes to ensure legal and unique original content. I can't say if there's much victimization or exploitative ops on there, haven't really looked and don't care to because I'm afraid of what exists on Reddit I don't already know about that's bad enough: like https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech <-- not porn, still not safe for sanity or life in general... I'd hope anything with cp or the likes would get caught and shut down, and anything with rape (real OR fake), and revenge porn, etc... But there's some reddits where people post (often) anonymously to boost their self-image too like /r/NormalNudes which describes itself as: "Normal Nudes is an effort to have users submit their own pictures in order to build a library of what normal, every day human bodies look like. We should strive to love our bodies for what they are, and understand there are MANY healthy body types that are beautiful that don't necessarily conform to the standards we might see in magazines or on television." I don't think there's ever going to be a perfect way for society to embrace the seedier side of things, and also police everything bad and still retain a "free" censorship-free (as much as can be expected and safe) ... but honestly I think Reddit does better than Tumblr or Twitter which are less structured on how they moderate things being less "topical" and less about multiple communities. I think the best bet is probably have a board of porn overseers that basically are defacto mods in all porn subs and can override any other mod-and act swiftly when an issue comes to their attention. That would probably be the best they could possibly do.

lambda_obrien 6y ago
I don't want to get into it, but I've spent about 2 years investigating this ecosystem and it's pretty shocking how vast it is. Not sure anyone can do anything.