Actually - where I am guys is considered negative because it derives from male as the default gender / ie, patriarchal is the argument I've heard. But absolute

Actually - where I am guys is considered negative because it derives from male as the default gender / ie, patriarchal is the argument I've heard. But absolutely NO ONE considers it a perversion or focus on genitals except for a few folks. This line, why are you focusing on my genitals or why are you focusing on their genitals comes up repeatedly in this context so it has to be a commonly used argument in some more activist circles. That and focusing on "perversions" - which I find even weirder, most of the offenders are just normal people who didn't even realize "guys" was offensive or might be offensive to some. Some of the activists who start yelling about perversions and genitals seem a bit more off their rocker at times then the folks they are accusing. The only thing that caught my eye was the perversions / genitals thing, because I'd just been reading someone else who used this same argument in a similar context.