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> Making an agreement you have no intention of adhering to is not ethical, regardless of whether the law backs you up or not. Yes it is. If a company is makin
by stale2002 6y ago
> Making an agreement you have no intention of adhering to is not ethical, regardless of whether the law backs you up or not.
Yes it is. If a company is making its employees sign unethical agreements, then they deserve any negative consequence to that.
Don't make your employees sign unethical agreements, if you don't want people to lie to you, and screw you over.
Unironically, companies that do this, should be named and shamed, and everyone should take every legal option that they can get away with to screw over the company and the people who are making these decisions.
> It's better to simply strike out that line and say it's not valid in California so why have it in the contract.
Nope. Screw them over instead. They deserve it. Its legal, and they deserve to have negative consequences on them.
- WalterBright 6y ago> Yes it is. Nobody made you sign it. Reneging on your agreement is dishonorable.
- ncmncm 6y agoNo. The text is void. The law is that you agreed to a contract equivalent to one with that text crossed out. They knew it, you knew it, they knew you knew it, you knew they knew it. But actually do cross it out before signing, if that makes you feel any better.
- WalterBright 6y agoIt's about your word, not the law. Although the law says that clause is not enforceable, that does not mean you cannot abide by the terms. I.e. reneging on your agreement is reneging on it, plain and simple. Signing the agreement knowing you're going to renege on it is unethical. > But actually do cross it out before signing, if that makes you feel any better. Man up and line it out if you aren't going to abide by it.
- agildehaus 6y agoMost people are signing these agreements because the alternative is not to have a roof over your head or eat.
- WalterBright 6y agoNon-competes are for high value jobs. They're not starving.
- nobodyandproud 6y agoNon-competes are applied to fresh graduates on a regular basis, so that’s straight-out misinformation.
- WalterBright 6y agoFresh graduates often go into high paying jobs.
- nobodyandproud 6y agoAnd also low paying. Those also get non-competes, because there are no downsides to forcing someone to sign. It’s unethical.
- WalterBright 6y agoThey can also use google to answer questions about non-competes, which cost nothing. They can go to amazon and search for books "Employment Contracts" and get plenty of information. Their local public library would also be happy to help, for free. The notion that a college graduate is a poor thing that can't discover basic information for free is ridiculous. > It’s unethical. Again, your ethics are about you, not somebody else.
- lostdog 6y agoNon-competes are being used everywhere: https://www.npr.org/2018/07/10/627682297/regulators-investigate-fast-food-chains-limits-on-worker-recruitment https://www.npr.org/2018/07/10/627682297/regulators-investig...