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Do you have an alternative to this agreement? Are you willing to walk if they won’t budge? I’d suggest that you stand your ground and redline it in the employ

by tarr11 6y ago

Do you have an alternative to this agreement? Are you willing to walk if they won’t budge? I’d suggest that you stand your ground and redline it in the employment contract. It will materially impact your future earning potential. Perhaps they can offer you a year of severance in exchange for the non compete. They will likely tell you “it’s standard” and “there’s nothing they can do” and they will hold that line until they know you are serious.

PragmaticPulp 6y ago
> Perhaps they can offer you a year of severance in exchange for the non compete. Negotiating a year of severance pay is extremely unlikely without additional conditions (such as requiring 6 years of service, equivalent to 2 months severance for every 1 year of employment). > They will likely tell you “it’s standard” and “there’s nothing they can do” and they will hold that line until they know you are serious. All very true. Keep in mind that their willingness and ability to be flexible varies greatly on the size of the company and how difficult it is to find other candidates with similar skill sets. If you're the only person in their hiring pipeline with a specific skillset, you might have more leverage. If they have 10 other candidates with similar talents in the hiring queue, they might simply choose to move on to the next candidate. It helps to have some leverage.
trentnix 6y ago
Do you have an alternative to this agreement? I'm not sure. I think if that more narrowly defined the scope of competition and the nature of how the relationship was terminated, maybe. I presume that the non-compete is written in such a general sense on purpose, though. To them, that's an advantage. Are you willing to walk if they won’t budge? I'm certainly able to, financially and otherwise. But I look for jobs infrequently, so I'm not sure how common this experience really is. Maybe I'm standing my ground here only to find out the next 10 jobs that offer have similar non-competes. If that's the case, then maybe I've made a molehill into a mountain. They will likely tell you “it’s standard” and “there’s nothing they can do” and they will hold that line until they know you are serious. That's what they've said. And I've responded that, unfortunately, I won't be able to move forward.

by tarr11 6y ago

PragmaticPulp 6y ago

> Perhaps they can offer you a year of severance in exchange for the non compete. Negotiating a year of severance pay is extremely unlikely without additional conditions (such as requiring 6 years of service, equivalent to 2 months severance for every 1 year of employment). > They will likely tell you “it’s standard” and “there’s nothing they can do” and they will hold that line until they know you are serious. All very true. Keep in mind that their willingness and ability to be flexible varies greatly on the size of the company and how difficult it is to find other candidates with similar skill sets. If you're the only person in their hiring pipeline with a specific skillset, you might have more leverage. If they have 10 other candidates with similar talents in the hiring queue, they might simply choose to move on to the next candidate. It helps to have some leverage.

trentnix 6y ago

Do you have an alternative to this agreement? I'm not sure. I think if that more narrowly defined the scope of competition and the nature of how the relationship was terminated, maybe. I presume that the non-compete is written in such a general sense on purpose, though. To them, that's an advantage. Are you willing to walk if they won’t budge? I'm certainly able to, financially and otherwise. But I look for jobs infrequently, so I'm not sure how common this experience really is. Maybe I'm standing my ground here only to find out the next 10 jobs that offer have similar non-competes. If that's the case, then maybe I've made a molehill into a mountain. They will likely tell you “it’s standard” and “there’s nothing they can do” and they will hold that line until they know you are serious. That's what they've said. And I've responded that, unfortunately, I won't be able to move forward.