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Try taking a look at the "privacy" page under your live.com account. They know _everything_ you do on your computer. It's of course for "your benefit". They kn

Try taking a look at the "privacy" page under your live.com account. They know _everything_ you do on your computer. It's of course for "your benefit". They know every application you lauch, how long it was running for, and if it had input parameters, they also know which files you opened. They know what you search for (if you use IE/Edge), and lots of other "telemetry" data. Here you go : https://account.microsoft.com/privacy/activity-history https://account.microsoft.com/privacy/activity-history

smoldesu 6y ago
How does that differ from the telemetry Apple uses?
- 8fingerlouie 6y ago
  Microsoft collects all this information despite having answered "no" to every "do you want to" during setup. _If_ Apple uses telemetry, it tends to keep it "on device". Frequently visited locations ? Yup, on device. If you buy a new device, you restart your frequently visited locations. Anything AI ? Yup, also on device. The only exception i can think of is photos with iCloud enabled. If you store your photos in the cloud, Apple will process them for faces/locations/whatever AI use. That's the reason you can enter "car and dog" into the search field on your iPhone and get all images containing both. It's all here : https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/
AshWolfy 6y ago
Except you can turn that off
- 8fingerlouie 6y ago
  Not easily. I answered "NO" to everything during setup, and it still collects just about everything. And this is Windows 10 Pro. I'd much prefer an "opt in" scenario where _nothing_ is reported unless i specifically allow it. I'm aware that some things go hand in hand, like "find my device" requires my device to report it's location, but i can't remember EVER opting in to sending every app i open, filename of every file i open, every link i browse, to them.
  - AshWolfy 6y ago
    I would double check if you turned it off. I did and there is no information there. I would much prefer if it was opt in, but that is a trade off im willing to make.

smoldesu 6y ago

How does that differ from the telemetry Apple uses?

8fingerlouie 6y ago
Microsoft collects all this information despite having answered "no" to every "do you want to" during setup. _If_ Apple uses telemetry, it tends to keep it "on device". Frequently visited locations ? Yup, on device. If you buy a new device, you restart your frequently visited locations. Anything AI ? Yup, also on device. The only exception i can think of is photos with iCloud enabled. If you store your photos in the cloud, Apple will process them for faces/locations/whatever AI use. That's the reason you can enter "car and dog" into the search field on your iPhone and get all images containing both. It's all here : https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/

AshWolfy 6y ago

Except you can turn that off

8fingerlouie 6y ago
Not easily. I answered "NO" to everything during setup, and it still collects just about everything. And this is Windows 10 Pro. I'd much prefer an "opt in" scenario where _nothing_ is reported unless i specifically allow it. I'm aware that some things go hand in hand, like "find my device" requires my device to report it's location, but i can't remember EVER opting in to sending every app i open, filename of every file i open, every link i browse, to them.
- AshWolfy 6y ago
  I would double check if you turned it off. I did and there is no information there. I would much prefer if it was opt in, but that is a trade off im willing to make.