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I use Windows and MacOS, and I wince every time either of them has an update. For one, MS doesn't test updates anymore. You may get something pleasant like los

by AmVess 6y ago

I use Windows and MacOS, and I wince every time either of them has an update. For one, MS doesn't test updates anymore. You may get something pleasant like losing the ability to print, or having all your network cards vanish. I had a stack of Mac Minis years ago that I used for various things. One update bricked half of them. I was able to fix them easily, but it should not have happened at all. I installed from scratch on one of them, and an update bricked it. I did nothing to the computer in between the fresh install and pressing the update button. Neat. The bottom line is Apple and MS have long ago stopped caring about the quality of their products.

techsupporter 6y ago
Microsoft famously canned their entire group of people who do testing (SDETs). If the problem you hit isn't caught by an automated test at build, Microsoft employees running it in some form of "dogfood," or the people running beta builds, it is getting shipped. Maybe that's good enough. Maybe people are getting used to software coming out with multiple updates per quarter to fix some "random glitch." I look at it as the computing industry getting away from the roles and pace that made computers reliable instead of just functional. We used to have Operations staff to keep a service reliable; we used to have Testing staff to make sure a code base was reliable. They had their own failings, but to cut them out entirely did wonders for stock prices and not much for the end user experience. But maybe being able to launch a pre-VC startup with one person and a stack of cloud services is a better trade-off.
saltminer 6y ago
> I had a stack of Mac Minis years ago that I used for various things. One update bricked half of them. That happened to a former manager of mine when he pushed out an update (might have been High Sierra?). 30 signage machines got sent to surplus as a result, including some that were mounted in some incredibly inconvenient places (which I got to retrieve, of course).

by AmVess 6y ago

techsupporter 6y ago

Microsoft famously canned their entire group of people who do testing (SDETs). If the problem you hit isn't caught by an automated test at build, Microsoft employees running it in some form of "dogfood," or the people running beta builds, it is getting shipped. Maybe that's good enough. Maybe people are getting used to software coming out with multiple updates per quarter to fix some "random glitch." I look at it as the computing industry getting away from the roles and pace that made computers reliable instead of just functional. We used to have Operations staff to keep a service reliable; we used to have Testing staff to make sure a code base was reliable. They had their own failings, but to cut them out entirely did wonders for stock prices and not much for the end user experience. But maybe being able to launch a pre-VC startup with one person and a stack of cloud services is a better trade-off.

saltminer 6y ago

> I had a stack of Mac Minis years ago that I used for various things. One update bricked half of them. That happened to a former manager of mine when he pushed out an update (might have been High Sierra?). 30 signage machines got sent to surplus as a result, including some that were mounted in some incredibly inconvenient places (which I got to retrieve, of course).