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Erdogan is not Turkey... A bigger power loses more from any conflict threatening the status quo. Turkey is a key player in protection of status quo surrounding

Erdogan is not Turkey... A bigger power loses more from any conflict threatening the status quo. Turkey is a key player in protection of status quo surrounding the region shaped heavily by western influence. Turkey siding with Russia/China, leaving NATO would be end of any US influence in mideast + eastern mediterranean. Guess why Putin is giving so many nice toys to Erdogan. He wants to make Turkey confident and stand up for itself by conflict instead of diplomacy. Meanwhile West is doing the opposite game. I think we all know where this goes. Remind you, Turkey is 80M in population. Any all out war or a civilian war, will be 4 times worse than Syria, 2 times worse than Iraq. Europe/West had to redefine itself in face of refugee crisis from Syria. We will be talking about a whole different "Western values" if such a crisis happens. And if that happens, CCP won't look so bad to most of the world.

LegitShady 6y ago
>Turkey is a key player in protection of status quo surrounding the region shaped heavily by western influence. It's interesting that you think its in the west's best interest to continue being blackmailed by Turkey indefinitely. That's the status quo. It won't go on indefinitely no matter what. >Turkey siding with Russia/China Everyone is aware that turkey is playing the powers off each other, but I really doubt Turkey will really side with China or Russia who both hate the islamic religion. >Turkey siding with Russia/China, leaving NATO would be end of any US influence in mideast + eastern mediterranean. Edrogan thinks to forge anew turkish superpower by blackmailing the west and playing the powers off each other. Everyone knows. >Any all out war or a civilian war, will be 4 times worse than Syria, 2 times worse than Iraq. It won't come to that. The west will sanction Turkey into nothing, and Turkey will have the option of becoming 1/100th of its current economy or sell itself to china or russia and become a client state, something erdogan won't stand. >And if that happens, CCP won't look so bad to most of the world. Nobody with an sense in their head sees the political orientation of china and the way Xi can disappear its billionaires and thinks "I should sign up for that, that's the system for me". The CCP system looks terrible, and being a client of theirs is just to be under a boot.
- mclightning 6y ago
  I guess, only the time will tell :)

LegitShady 6y ago

>Turkey is a key player in protection of status quo surrounding the region shaped heavily by western influence. It's interesting that you think its in the west's best interest to continue being blackmailed by Turkey indefinitely. That's the status quo. It won't go on indefinitely no matter what. >Turkey siding with Russia/China Everyone is aware that turkey is playing the powers off each other, but I really doubt Turkey will really side with China or Russia who both hate the islamic religion. >Turkey siding with Russia/China, leaving NATO would be end of any US influence in mideast + eastern mediterranean. Edrogan thinks to forge anew turkish superpower by blackmailing the west and playing the powers off each other. Everyone knows. >Any all out war or a civilian war, will be 4 times worse than Syria, 2 times worse than Iraq. It won't come to that. The west will sanction Turkey into nothing, and Turkey will have the option of becoming 1/100th of its current economy or sell itself to china or russia and become a client state, something erdogan won't stand. >And if that happens, CCP won't look so bad to most of the world. Nobody with an sense in their head sees the political orientation of china and the way Xi can disappear its billionaires and thinks "I should sign up for that, that's the system for me". The CCP system looks terrible, and being a client of theirs is just to be under a boot.

mclightning 6y ago
I guess, only the time will tell :)