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There is a book you should read, Lost Enlightenment: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691165851/lost-enlightenment https://press.princeton.edu/bo
by idlewords 6y ago
There is a book you should read, Lost Enlightenment: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691165851/lost-enlightenment https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691165851/lo...
The flourishing of Islamic science took place not in Baghdad, but in Central Asia, and it was already in steep decline when al-Ghazali wrote his polemics. The reasons for both the rise and decline of the Central Asian enlightenment are fascinating and complex.
The tl;dr is that these cities (most now ruins) relied on very complicated irrigation systems that required a high degree of technical skill to maintain, and were also quite cosmopolitan places culturally, since they were never Arabized and lay on major trade routes, guaranteeing them exposure to ideas and scholarly texts from India (although interestingly, not so much from China).
Anyway, it's a great book and will put the rise and decline of this period in context for you.
- 2Gkashmiri 6y agothank you. I will be going through this book as early as possible.
- selimthegrim 6y agoNitpick: “...as soon as possible” sounds more natural to native speakers Ulugh Beg’s observatory was what Ottomans’ short lived one was built to compete with
- idlewords 6y agoWhat sounds most natural to native speakers is not correcting people's language unasked.
- selimthegrim 6y agoFair enough, but he and I share a native non-English language, so I thought I was being helpful.
- 2Gkashmiri 6y agoi often try to keep my language as close to british english but very sometimes there is a slip up. I try to avoid this though
- selimthegrim 6y agoIn Urdu the distinction is a little different and probably very seldom arises in the English sense (e.g. jaldi utho vs jaldi se utho when what is meant is like subah sawere (se) utho) so it's not your fault. https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/hindi-urdu-early-to-do-something.3105836/ https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/hindi-urdu-early-to-...
- BeetleB 6y agoA lot of people hate being corrected on language, but many welcome it. In my life, I've certainly had my fair share of people come to me upset saying "I've been saying it wrong all this time and you never told me!" Best not to jump to conclusions about the speaker's wishes.
- 2Gkashmiri 6y agourrghh... i was "thinking" of writing "i will be devouring this book as fast as possible" because wink wink torrents but changed the wording because i didn't want to write the "t" word but yeah