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Please get rid of your browser evangelism, no matter how clever it might be. I know very well that I shouldn't be using Internet Explorer. If I had any choice i

by yock 15y ago

Please get rid of your browser evangelism, no matter how clever it might be. I know very well that I shouldn't be using Internet Explorer. If I had any choice in the matter, I wouldn't

yock 15y ago
Can I safely assume the downvotes are from those who think blocking the user's site interaction with a full screen lightbox is good UX?
- bryne 15y ago
  I don't think I'd even mind so much if it weren't transparent, but it's pretty repulsive. As some other commenters noted, the site tries really hard as well but 1300-px-wide content is awful in any light. It's just form, not function, but the irony from a site that pushes the uniform display of email and uses (web and email) resolutions that most users can't see without scrollbars isn't helping the message any.
- thaumaturgy 15y ago
  I sympathize with you -- and agree that there are better ways to communicate this to the user -- but there's good reason for some kind of "browser evangelism". I used to spend half of my time when building a new site on its structure, content, layout, etc., and then the other half on trying to get it to work with the various Explorers. IE 8 did not improve that situation, and neither has IE 9. Unlike this website developer, I just gave up on website development for people altogether -- it just wasn't worth it anymore. I know a lot of people are restricted to IE for one reason or another, but at this point, the only way the situation will improve is if developers start doing some effective "evangelism".
  - encoderer 15y ago
    I've found the easiest solution to this is to pay about $150 and let the folks at psd2html -- or similar -- handle all of that for me.
antidaily 15y ago
IE8 screenshot. http://i.imgur.com/ZFDaO.png http://i.imgur.com/ZFDaO.png For the record, it works great in IE9.
- mnutt 15y ago
  I posted the link into Yammer, which tries to find the most significant image for the thumbnail. I couldn't figure out where that image came from.
  - shin_lao 15y ago
    It's from the movie Spaceballs.
    - mnutt 15y ago
      Thanks, I knew what the image was, just not why it appeared as the thumbnail.
  - sorbus 15y ago
    Tineye suggests that it comes from Spaceballs - or at least, of the other similar images it finds, most have Spaceballs in the filename.
  - count 15y ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25Zf8svHZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25Zf8svHZQ
natural219 15y ago
Sorry if this is obvious, by why are you restricted to IE? I believe you, I just don't understand why.
patrickaljord 15y ago
> If I had any choice in the matter, I wouldn't I live in Peru, most people still use IE out of ignorance here, not because they can't. Browser evangelism is sure useless to an HN reader but it's very needed for common users and I encourage it very much.
- eli 15y ago
  Telling people they're using a crappy browser is a service. Preventing them from using your site is a disservice.

by yock 15y ago

Please get rid of your browser evangelism, no matter how clever it might be. I know very well that I shouldn't be using Internet Explorer. If I had any choice in the matter, I wouldn't

yock 15y ago

Can I safely assume the downvotes are from those who think blocking the user's site interaction with a full screen lightbox is good UX?

bryne 15y ago
I don't think I'd even mind so much if it weren't transparent, but it's pretty repulsive. As some other commenters noted, the site tries really hard as well but 1300-px-wide content is awful in any light. It's just form, not function, but the irony from a site that pushes the uniform display of email and uses (web and email) resolutions that most users can't see without scrollbars isn't helping the message any.
thaumaturgy 15y ago
I sympathize with you -- and agree that there are better ways to communicate this to the user -- but there's good reason for some kind of "browser evangelism". I used to spend half of my time when building a new site on its structure, content, layout, etc., and then the other half on trying to get it to work with the various Explorers. IE 8 did not improve that situation, and neither has IE 9. Unlike this website developer, I just gave up on website development for people altogether -- it just wasn't worth it anymore. I know a lot of people are restricted to IE for one reason or another, but at this point, the only way the situation will improve is if developers start doing some effective "evangelism".
- encoderer 15y ago
  I've found the easiest solution to this is to pay about $150 and let the folks at psd2html -- or similar -- handle all of that for me.

antidaily 15y ago

IE8 screenshot. http://i.imgur.com/ZFDaO.png http://i.imgur.com/ZFDaO.png For the record, it works great in IE9.

mnutt 15y ago
I posted the link into Yammer, which tries to find the most significant image for the thumbnail. I couldn't figure out where that image came from.
- shin_lao 15y ago
  It's from the movie Spaceballs.
  - mnutt 15y ago
    Thanks, I knew what the image was, just not why it appeared as the thumbnail.
- sorbus 15y ago
  Tineye suggests that it comes from Spaceballs - or at least, of the other similar images it finds, most have Spaceballs in the filename.
- count 15y ago
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25Zf8svHZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25Zf8svHZQ

natural219 15y ago

Sorry if this is obvious, by why are you restricted to IE? I believe you, I just don't understand why.

patrickaljord 15y ago

> If I had any choice in the matter, I wouldn't I live in Peru, most people still use IE out of ignorance here, not because they can't. Browser evangelism is sure useless to an HN reader but it's very needed for common users and I encourage it very much.

eli 15y ago
Telling people they're using a crappy browser is a service. Preventing them from using your site is a disservice.