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HBD is human biodiversity, which is considered by some on the left to be a euphemism for "black people aren't as clever as white people" and aligned with eugeni
by Veen 6y ago
HBD is human biodiversity, which is considered by some on the left to be a euphemism for "black people aren't as clever as white people" and aligned with eugenics. In fact, it's the study of human genetic variation [0], which has many implications for fields such as healthcare.
As you can imagine, it's an extremely sensitive subject which is widely mischaracterized by people on both the left and the right for their own political ends.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation
- jhpriestley 6y agoHmm, which geneticist coined the term? Oh, it was VDARE contributor Steve Sailer? The one who writes about black genetic inferiority and Jewish control of the media?
- jojobas 6y agoWell, Jews are 3x over-represented in US Congress and to a variable degree in other high-effort, high-reward areas such as law and yes, media management. Unless you'd suspect a conspiracy, there has to be a genetic or a cultural reason for that and the problem with that is that any such reason could plausibly apply to Black Americans.
- pseudalopex 6y agoBiodiversity implies it isn't cultural.
- jojobas 6y agoAdoption studies also don't suggest that. Ashkenazi Jews seem to actually have a different brain model.
- pseudalopex 6y agoDifferent brain model? Just say genetic if you mean genetic.
- jojobas 6y agoYes, a genetically different brain model. https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/papers/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/papers/AshkenaziIQ.jb...
- pseudalopex 6y agoBrain model doesn't seem to be a common term. The linked paper uses the word model several times but not in a way that matches how used it. I'm not going to debate the paper. For the benefit of anyone else reading here's a rebuttal.[1] I suggest reading both. [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20131029200900/https://www.ncas.rutgers.edu/sites/fasn/files/How%20Jews%20Became%20Smart%20(2008).pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20131029200900/https://www.ncas.r...
- Veen 6y agoNo, it was probably the anthropologist Jonathan Marks, in his 1995 book entitled, curiously enough, Human Biodiversity.
- jhpriestley 6y agoAh, you're right, Marks clarifies that racists appropriated the term he coined (http://anthropomics2.blogspot.com/2019/12/i-coined-phrase-human-biodiversity.html?m=1 http://anthropomics2.blogspot.com/2019/12/i-coined-phrase-hu...). Siskind obviously was referring to the nazi/alt-right/nrx meaning of the term, associated with Sailer, though.
- jojobas 6y agoTo all the people who consider these ideas criminal, a little thought experiment: A tribe has been discovered that is a close approximation of Homo heidelbergensis. They have basic language (100 words or so) and craft brutish tools, but, whatever you do, do not advance further than a 10 year old Homo sapiens in most areas of their mental development, however are way more aggressive and physically strong. Babies adopted into H. sapiens show improvement, but still markedly fall behind, never able to learn to read. What should the public policy with regards to these people be? Should they be considered sui juris and generally held to the standards of the rest of the world? Should they be isolated and forbidden for contact? Alternatively, a gene has been discovered in 0.01% of humans that, if present in 2 copies, produces an Einstein of sorts, less childhood problems. Should the carriers of the gene be allowed to seek each other out? What should be the policy towards the lucky 25% of their children?
- wizzwizz4 6y agoMy take: this is a tricky ethical dilemma that we should thoroughly explore in fiction. I'm glad its premise is incredibly unlikely, but the future is scary and might need a solution to the problem.
- jojobas 6y agoThat's a copout, not a take.
- wizzwizz4 6y agoIt's an admission that I don't know the answers. Honestly, I'm suspicious of somebody who claims to have the answers, here; they'd have to have a pretty darn good argument behind it, because people have been trying to solve this since before WWII.
- jhpriestley 6y agoWhat bearing does this thought experiment have on our reality, where Nazi race science is completely false and discredited?