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> E.g. INTX will LIKELY have to put in more conscious effort to improve social skills in order to better communicate with people I knew I needed to work on my
by Twisol 6y ago
> E.g. INTX will LIKELY have to put in more conscious effort to improve social skills in order to better communicate with people
I knew I needed to work on my social skills long before I tested as an INTP. My criticism is not that the correlations don't exist. My criticism is that they don't seem helpful.
> It also gives insights into how a person thinks and perceives the world [...] which otherwise you would have to read tons of paper on that person
Can't you just talk with them? Somebody once asked me for my MBTI class as a shortcut to trying to understand how to interact with me. It didn't work very well for them, and I didn't much appreciate being binned that way.
I've always been binned as a logical person in particular, but my internal landscape has been, subjectively, dominated by creative thought and expression. Logic is just a tool I use to impose some structure on that experience. People who stop at the surface -- and worse, who label me under MBTI -- manifestly do not understand me, my motivations, my goals, or my challenges. (If you go point to some MBTI page on Logicians and say "it mentions creativity right here!" I will be very cross with you.)
To say this is a sore spot may be an understatement.
- pseudalopex 6y agoHelpful is subjective. I don't feel like sharing something personal here though. Do you take the time to understand everyone you meet, their motivations, their goals, and their challenges? Even the ones who don't want you to?
- Twisol 6y ago> Do you take the time to understand everyone you meet, their motivations, their goals, and their challenges? Even the ones who don't want you to? To the degree our relationship warrants. Don't you? We all form mental models of the people we interact with over time. I don't see how the MBTI helps that process. As mentioned, for some people who have interacted with me, it has hindered that process by establishing a totem to which I am compared. Is the argument that MBTI is useful when interacting with people you don't spend time with, who have a brief and transient presence in your life? Or is it more akin to birdwatching? I don't see either of those options as especially useful, but I won't fault anybody for it.
- pseudalopex 6y agoIn other words, there are a lot of people you don't get to know as individuals really. You don't have to understand how something helps other people to understand they find it helpful. Any tool can be misused of course. You seem more interested in belittling other points of view than understanding. I'm done.