> To me Telegram is better even from a privacy point. Sure, if someone breaks into the Telegram servers can read you messages, but to me that isn't the first pr

> To me Telegram is better even from a privacy point. Sure, if someone breaks into the Telegram servers can read you messages, but to me that isn't the first privacy concern. For a lot of people, that's exactly the concern. > Also Signal is open source but not really open. In Telegram you can use whatever client you want, in Signal you are forbidden to use anything else than the official client. There's nothing in open source that requires people running services to allow anyone to connect to it however they like. You still have the freedom to inspect, modify, run and distribute both the server and client, so it's to see what part of that in "not really open". > And the official client is open source, but it depends on proprietary services, like the Google Play services on Android, so you really can't use it on a 100% open source system. I agree, this is annoying. But it depends on your threat model and it seems that most people don't see Google as the threat to protect against. > You can't even find online the Signal apk by their choice, so the only official way is to install it from the Google Play Store https://signal.org/android/apk/ https://signal.org/android/apk/ > (and how do you verify that the apk that Google provided to you doesn't contain a backdoor?) https://signal.org/blog/reproducible-android/ https://signal.org/blog/reproducible-android/