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Signal Desktop is a travesty. Their design causes it to be incredibly slow, to miss messages, to have them arrive out of order - and that's not even acknowledg
by meibo 6y ago
Signal Desktop is a travesty.
Their design causes it to be incredibly slow, to miss messages, to have them arrive out of order - and that's not even acknowledging the usability downfalls.
They really need to do better. I hope they can figure out some way to shift more resources to it, a good desktop client is essential to modern messengers.
- hashkb 6y agoThe "standard electron horror" is why I can't really commit to signal. None of the Good Guys have a good desktop messenger yet.
- meibo 6y agoYou can make good Electron apps if you care enough. Electron is decidedly not why Signal Desktop is terrible, it's just a contributing factor.
- pseudalopex 6y agoEven Visual Studio Code gets things wrong.
- EvilEy3 6y ago> You can make good Electron apps if you care enough. That defeats purpose of Electron, though.
- hashkb 6y agoWell, nobody cares enough. And that's probably why they find Electron attractive. No need to care, no expectations that you'll ship something good. Hey, look at Slack!
- MikusR 6y agoTelegram has one.
- Asraelite 6y agoTheir desktop client really is excellent, but I'm guessing they don't count as one of the Good Guys.
- throwdbaaway 6y agoThis reminds of the following quote from Skin in the Game: > To figure out why ethics, moral obligations, and skills cannot be easily separable in real life, consider the following. When you tell someone in a position of responsibility, say your bookkeeper, "I trust you," do you mean that 1) you trust his ethics (he will not divert money to Panama), 2) you trust his accounting precision, or 3) both? The entire point of the book is that in the real world it is hard to disentangle ethics on one hand from knowledge and competence on the other. So far moxie appears to be ethical, but his and his team's work has been rather sloppy. Meanwhile, many are still questioning the integrity of telegram, but durov's team is definitely the most competent one.
- sodality2 6y agoXMPP ;)