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I just saw this tweet - https://twitter.com/JustineTunney/status/1365805503561957376 https://twitter.com/JustineTunney/status/1365805503561957376 Cosmopolitan

by krab 6y ago

I just saw this tweet - https://twitter.com/JustineTunney/status/1365805503561957376 https://twitter.com/JustineTunney/status/1365805503561957376 Cosmopolitan is going to be a big thing.

andai 6y ago
>We've just created a 336kb Lua interpreter binary that runs on seven operating systems, thanks to Cosmopolitan Libc. https://ahgamut.github.io/c/2021/02/27/ape-cosmo/ https://ahgamut.github.io/c/2021/02/27/ape-cosmo/
- svenfaw 6y ago
  Awesome! But why no download link?
  - pfortuny 6y ago
    Because as OP says it is not totally complete and lacks some parts.
  - ahgamut 6y ago
    You can compile it yourself if you like. I created a fork of the Lua Github mirror and made the necessary changes to compile with Cosmopolitan: https://github.com/ahgamut/lua/tree/cosmopolitan https://github.com/ahgamut/lua/tree/cosmopolitan
poc43 6y ago
Likely only if it’s forked away from anything to do with its current maintainer, for reasons only a Google search away: http://valleywag.gawker.com/why-does-google-employ-a-pro-slavery-lunatic-1612868507 http://valleywag.gawker.com/why-does-google-employ-a-pro-sla... That’s the problem with trolling like that: once you do something cool that’s unrelated and try to move on it’s not clear if you’re genuine about anything any more. The history there will absolutely make larger interests hesitant to associate, contribute or integrate in something like, say, LLVM (regardless of the merit or lack thereof), particularly in today’s less forgiving culture. Note that I’m not sharing an opinion on the content. It’s a metaobservation about where we are, for better or worse. That’s on page 1 of my Google search for “wow, who’s this amazing coder?”, so my path is the same anyone else would take doing due diligence on getting involved.
- anthk 6y ago
  >Rather than inclusionary leftism. Traditional left didn't give a shit on gender, race or whatever bullshit you think you should declare yourself "inferior" because of an excuse. Just work and equality. I hate both poshy techno-aristocrats (I would kick them out to Somalia or a Mexico narco shithole, to see what they can do without social support or a state backed police), and SWJs with far more points in common with fascism (Fuck that so-called cultural appropiation) than the common worker.
  - poc43 6y ago
    I mean, you’re engaging with the espoused opinion of someone who simultaneously advocated class warfare and drew Google payroll, so you may as well be arguing with a figment of our collective imagination. If that’s not obvious by nature of how incongruous it is I fear for the Internet.
- 1996 6y ago
  > Likely only if it’s forked away from anything to do with its current maintainer, And exactly why should I care about the current maintainer? Except maybe to say "thank you"? Let's put the question upside down: what have you (or the gawker journalist) brought to me? I mean, besides your outraged opinions (which anyone is entitled to have!) On one hand, you have a wonderful technical creation by someone asking nothing in return. On the other, you are providing... hatred towards the author? On a 2 hours old account? I'm sorry if she breaks the kumbaya illusion, but people are not equal. Some can't escape the working class, or the welfare class - not due to any personal failure or limits, but due to societal indoctrination. Some other people break free, and then bring gifts of the gods to mankind. They are called innovators, entrepreneurs - the name vary. But you know one when you see one. There is nothing is cosmopolitan that was "impossible" to achieve by anyone dedicated, even years before. There's nothing magic- except in the mind of the author, that associated the right pieces together. > The history there will absolutely make larger interests hesitant to associate, contribute or integrate If anything, your comment make me less likely to associate with you! > particularly in today’s less forgiving culture. I couldn't care less. The less forgiving culture is a problem for those who need to work ("will code for food" as they said during the dotcom crisis) or integrate with the rest of society. Unfortunately, that means most of the people here, especially those working for the FANGs. But there are some of us who just don't care - except to lament that, when shown the way to escape, most geeks double down on their own mistakes, and remain chained to their FANGs masters. So please go on attacking the author if that makes you happy, while the rest of us admire the creativity and new things made possible by cosmopolitan (and make money out of that too!)

by krab 6y ago

I just saw this tweet - https://twitter.com/JustineTunney/status/1365805503561957376 https://twitter.com/JustineTunney/status/1365805503561957376 Cosmopolitan is going to be a big thing.

andai 6y ago

>We've just created a 336kb Lua interpreter binary that runs on seven operating systems, thanks to Cosmopolitan Libc. https://ahgamut.github.io/c/2021/02/27/ape-cosmo/ https://ahgamut.github.io/c/2021/02/27/ape-cosmo/

svenfaw 6y ago
Awesome! But why no download link?
- pfortuny 6y ago
  Because as OP says it is not totally complete and lacks some parts.
- ahgamut 6y ago
  You can compile it yourself if you like. I created a fork of the Lua Github mirror and made the necessary changes to compile with Cosmopolitan: https://github.com/ahgamut/lua/tree/cosmopolitan https://github.com/ahgamut/lua/tree/cosmopolitan

poc43 6y ago

Likely only if it’s forked away from anything to do with its current maintainer, for reasons only a Google search away: http://valleywag.gawker.com/why-does-google-employ-a-pro-slavery-lunatic-1612868507 http://valleywag.gawker.com/why-does-google-employ-a-pro-sla... That’s the problem with trolling like that: once you do something cool that’s unrelated and try to move on it’s not clear if you’re genuine about anything any more. The history there will absolutely make larger interests hesitant to associate, contribute or integrate in something like, say, LLVM (regardless of the merit or lack thereof), particularly in today’s less forgiving culture. Note that I’m not sharing an opinion on the content. It’s a metaobservation about where we are, for better or worse. That’s on page 1 of my Google search for “wow, who’s this amazing coder?”, so my path is the same anyone else would take doing due diligence on getting involved.

anthk 6y ago
>Rather than inclusionary leftism. Traditional left didn't give a shit on gender, race or whatever bullshit you think you should declare yourself "inferior" because of an excuse. Just work and equality. I hate both poshy techno-aristocrats (I would kick them out to Somalia or a Mexico narco shithole, to see what they can do without social support or a state backed police), and SWJs with far more points in common with fascism (Fuck that so-called cultural appropiation) than the common worker.
- poc43 6y ago
  I mean, you’re engaging with the espoused opinion of someone who simultaneously advocated class warfare and drew Google payroll, so you may as well be arguing with a figment of our collective imagination. If that’s not obvious by nature of how incongruous it is I fear for the Internet.
1996 6y ago
> Likely only if it’s forked away from anything to do with its current maintainer, And exactly why should I care about the current maintainer? Except maybe to say "thank you"? Let's put the question upside down: what have you (or the gawker journalist) brought to me? I mean, besides your outraged opinions (which anyone is entitled to have!) On one hand, you have a wonderful technical creation by someone asking nothing in return. On the other, you are providing... hatred towards the author? On a 2 hours old account? I'm sorry if she breaks the kumbaya illusion, but people are not equal. Some can't escape the working class, or the welfare class - not due to any personal failure or limits, but due to societal indoctrination. Some other people break free, and then bring gifts of the gods to mankind. They are called innovators, entrepreneurs - the name vary. But you know one when you see one. There is nothing is cosmopolitan that was "impossible" to achieve by anyone dedicated, even years before. There's nothing magic- except in the mind of the author, that associated the right pieces together. > The history there will absolutely make larger interests hesitant to associate, contribute or integrate If anything, your comment make me less likely to associate with you! > particularly in today’s less forgiving culture. I couldn't care less. The less forgiving culture is a problem for those who need to work ("will code for food" as they said during the dotcom crisis) or integrate with the rest of society. Unfortunately, that means most of the people here, especially those working for the FANGs. But there are some of us who just don't care - except to lament that, when shown the way to escape, most geeks double down on their own mistakes, and remain chained to their FANGs masters. So please go on attacking the author if that makes you happy, while the rest of us admire the creativity and new things made possible by cosmopolitan (and make money out of that too!)