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What's stopping people from physically inserting the key into the lock/ignition?
by ryankrage77 6y ago
What's stopping people from physically inserting the key into the lock/ignition?
- neals 6y agoCars not having physical locks on doors or for ignitions anymore is one, I assume.
- ed_balls 6y agoDoes such car exist? (Tesla Maybe?)
- hcho 6y agoNone of the cars I have driven in the last decade had physical keys. Owned a Nissan, Mercedes and Toyota, rented various BMWs, Peugeots etc...
- l33tman 6y agoIn the keyfob there is usually a foldout key hidden even in modern cars
- hcho 6y agoNone of the cars I owned had this. I hadn't fiddled with the rented cars keys so those might have had it.
- zulln 6y agoA lot of them actually have a real key "hidden" within the digital fob, see example: https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/item/105-about-bmw-key-fob https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/item/105-about-bmw-key-fob I have never had to actually use it, but looked into it when I got low battery-warnings to make sure I would not be locked out. Assuming this is not a legal requirement I am sure there are models where this is not possible though.
- kyriakos 6y agothose are for opening the doors but you cannot use them to start the engine
- zulln 6y agoFrom the link: > Once inside your vehicle, insert your remote key fob in the ignition slot or, if your car doesn't have one, hold it against the key markings on the side of the steering column. You'll then be able to start your BMW with the start/stop button on your vehicle's dashboard, even if your key fob is dead. Other cars probably have other solution. It was possible in my case as well (not BMW) but do not remember the process.
- nucleardog 6y agoMind listing some exact vehicle make+models? Because besides personal experience, googling the proximity keys of all of those brands shows the expected pop-out keys. Also photos of various models from all those brands in 2020 show key holes on the driver's door, which would suggest there is in fact a key somewhere that fits it.
- gmueckl 6y agoMy car has only has a mechanical lock on the driver's door. And the manual strongly advises against regular use of that lock for some reason. Supposedly, it is just a backup. A quick search of other brands comes up with similar stories and anecdotes of these locks breaking quickly if someone was relying on then too much.
- 0x0 6y agoModern (all?) Teslas do not have a physical key hole at all, you need to use a key card or key fob or the app (which works over bluetooth)
- zelos 6y agoI only just realised that there is an emergency physical key door lock on my Hyundai, but you have to pry a cover off the door handle to get to it.
- kyriakos 6y agomy 6 year old nissan doesn't have a physical key. most keyless cars you can open the door but not start the engine without a functioning wireless key
- fy20 6y agoAre you 100% sure? My car (12yo Toyota) has keyless entry and start, and the fob has an RFID chip inside. If the car can't detect the fob (e.g. the battery is dead) you can hold it against the "Start" button which has a RFID reader. I ask, because this feature is not advertised other than a few sentences in the manual, and it seems a pretty badly designed feature to not have a backup. The fob also has a physical key hidden inside - although that's a bit more obvious as there is a key hole on the drivers door.
- kyriakos 6y agoI found this https://www.douglassnissanofwaco.com/service/service-tips/how-to-start-a-nissan-with-dead-key-fob/ https://www.douglassnissanofwaco.com/service/service-tips/ho... So you may be right after all. I knew about the physical key but at the dealership they only said its used to open the doors.
- mytailorisrich 6y agoHaving just had to spend £380 to replace the receiver on my Ford I thought it did not have a physical key at all, then the nice dealership assistant lady told me on the phone "you need to open you keyless fob, there is a key inside"... I never knew!
- jonsen 6y agoDirt. Not using the mechanical key for a long time has consequences.
- globular-toast 6y agoIn some cars, if you lock the car with the fob it primes the alarm. If you subsequently unlock it with the physical key the alarm will activate when you enter the car. You can only disable it in with the fob. Source: had a 7th gen Honda Civic. Many cars hide their keyholes making them essentially inaccessible. Many drivers probably don't know they have one. Volkswagen has been doing this on some models since 2009. Source: had a Mk6 Golf.