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> identify yourself in whatever situation What situation? Other than crossing a border, or maybe appearing in court, I can't think of any situation where I nee

> identify yourself in whatever situation What situation? Other than crossing a border, or maybe appearing in court, I can't think of any situation where I need to prove who I am. I might need to prove my age, or that I have a right to a particular service, but I shouldn't need to provide my identity to do that.

_Microft 6y ago
That's how it works here? Here, you can pick up packages that the postman couldn't deliver (because nobody was home at the time) at the supermarket/gas station. They require you to identify yourself of course. This is the main reason I need it these days. During the lockdown, I let my library account expire and expect to sign up again one of these days when I am in the area. I would hate if I actually had to plan to take my id with me for such a thing. When I was a student, I participated in surveys. To prevent people participating more than once (you were reimbursed for the time spent there) they required you to identify yourself. The advantage of carrying a credit card sized id in my wallet all the time outweighs the disadvantages of not doing it (which is pretty easy because I think there are none) which is why I am suprised when someone does not.
- scatters 6y ago
  > They require you to identify yourself of course. That's unnecessary; all they need is to know that you have the right to collect the parcel. This can be done with a QR code generated by the sender, potentially alongside proof of address. > I let my library account expire [...] Proof of address, again, to show that you're a local resident and thereby entitled to the service. Why does a library need to know who you are? > When I was a student, I participated in surveys [...] That's a valid use of identity, yes. However, it's unnecessary for the survey company themselves to receive your identity; a trusted intermediary could hash your id number together with a salt provided by the survey company. > the disadvantages of doing it If you carry it the whole time, persons in authority (or not in authority) will get used to being able to demand or request it, which has a corrosive effect on privacy and civil liberty.

_Microft 6y ago

That's how it works here? Here, you can pick up packages that the postman couldn't deliver (because nobody was home at the time) at the supermarket/gas station. They require you to identify yourself of course. This is the main reason I need it these days. During the lockdown, I let my library account expire and expect to sign up again one of these days when I am in the area. I would hate if I actually had to plan to take my id with me for such a thing. When I was a student, I participated in surveys. To prevent people participating more than once (you were reimbursed for the time spent there) they required you to identify yourself. The advantage of carrying a credit card sized id in my wallet all the time outweighs the disadvantages of not doing it (which is pretty easy because I think there are none) which is why I am suprised when someone does not.

scatters 6y ago
> They require you to identify yourself of course. That's unnecessary; all they need is to know that you have the right to collect the parcel. This can be done with a QR code generated by the sender, potentially alongside proof of address. > I let my library account expire [...] Proof of address, again, to show that you're a local resident and thereby entitled to the service. Why does a library need to know who you are? > When I was a student, I participated in surveys [...] That's a valid use of identity, yes. However, it's unnecessary for the survey company themselves to receive your identity; a trusted intermediary could hash your id number together with a salt provided by the survey company. > the disadvantages of doing it If you carry it the whole time, persons in authority (or not in authority) will get used to being able to demand or request it, which has a corrosive effect on privacy and civil liberty.