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That's what I was thinking too. What will they do when they true business men run off? Who will they loot then?

by dorian-graph 15y ago

osipov 15y ago
They don't need true business men when the oil is flowing.
- dorian-graph 15y ago
  Have you read Atlas Shrugged?
_delirium 15y ago
In a lot of cases the "true business men" having their property confiscated by the government aren't much better, mostly being cronies of either a current or previous government themselves, or connected with organized crime. It's not like Russia's oligarchs suddenly sprouted business empires over the course of a few years through entrepreneurship and hard work. I tend to see it as basically conflicts within the ruling elite; sometimes one faction is in government, and sometimes another faction is, and stuff gets shadily privatized or shadily re-nationalized depending on how those power struggles ebb and flow.
- dorian-graph 15y ago
  .. and hopefully this is the last time I'll need to clarify this. My comment was in relation to Atlas Shrugged and unless you've read the book, you won't necessarily understand what I mean by looters and the like.
guard-of-terra 15y ago
By that you assume that there are good "true business men" (those who used to run Domodedovo) and bad "thugs". This doesn't reflect reality much. Those are just roles. One day you're a business man, the next day you participate in state-owned enterprise, the next day you're the "thug". It's wrong to try and separate good "business men" from bad "government men" because they're all drawn from the same pool. Yeah, and both groups "run off" from time to time. P.S. The notion that Domodedovo was the best airport compared to other Moscow airports seems to conflict with my experience. It wasn't worse but it wasn't much better. For example, during the ice rain of late December 2010 it failed straight on its face, losing power for several hours and being unable to perform.
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- dorian-graph 15y ago
  I'm assuming you haven't read Atlas Shrugged? Or have and did not reply with the context of my comment in mind . .
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That's what I was thinking too. What will they do when they true business men run off? Who will they loot then?

osipov 15y ago

They don't need true business men when the oil is flowing.

dorian-graph 15y ago
Have you read Atlas Shrugged?

_delirium 15y ago

In a lot of cases the "true business men" having their property confiscated by the government aren't much better, mostly being cronies of either a current or previous government themselves, or connected with organized crime. It's not like Russia's oligarchs suddenly sprouted business empires over the course of a few years through entrepreneurship and hard work. I tend to see it as basically conflicts within the ruling elite; sometimes one faction is in government, and sometimes another faction is, and stuff gets shadily privatized or shadily re-nationalized depending on how those power struggles ebb and flow.

dorian-graph 15y ago
.. and hopefully this is the last time I'll need to clarify this. My comment was in relation to Atlas Shrugged and unless you've read the book, you won't necessarily understand what I mean by looters and the like.

guard-of-terra 15y ago

By that you assume that there are good "true business men" (those who used to run Domodedovo) and bad "thugs". This doesn't reflect reality much. Those are just roles. One day you're a business man, the next day you participate in state-owned enterprise, the next day you're the "thug". It's wrong to try and separate good "business men" from bad "government men" because they're all drawn from the same pool. Yeah, and both groups "run off" from time to time. P.S. The notion that Domodedovo was the best airport compared to other Moscow airports seems to conflict with my experience. It wasn't worse but it wasn't much better. For example, during the ice rain of late December 2010 it failed straight on its face, losing power for several hours and being unable to perform.

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dorian-graph 15y ago
I'm assuming you haven't read Atlas Shrugged? Or have and did not reply with the context of my comment in mind . .

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