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It looks like a great entrant into the EV market, though I still can't find solid information on how many they've built, how many they're building per month, an
by grecy 6y ago
It looks like a great entrant into the EV market, though I still can't find solid information on how many they've built, how many they're building per month, and when they expect to really ramp up production to a sizable number.
There are a ton of articles online from late 2019 and early 2020 about massive ID.4 production numbers, but then they had that big software problem where they all sat around until fixed. They eventually sold those off... and now they're being very quiet about how many they can build per month.
Over the last ~5 years Tesla have spent billions building some of the biggest factories in the world to build batteries and they still can't make enough, which is currently why they can only make about 1 million vehicles/year (should hit that in 2021).
I realize VW and other big players have the required talent to build vehicles at immense scale, but they're all being very quiet about how they plan to make enough batteries to reach even 50% of what Tesla are already making in 2021.
Do we have any more up to date information on this?
- Vespasian 6y agoDid you confuse the model numbers? The ID.3 (which is not sold in the US) had a very early production start and initial software problems (they are getting a big update starting march 2021) The ID.4 production started later. VW announced ~40 billions worth of contracts with the usual vendors for battery cells (I recall at least LG and Catl). Those are are putting billions into new plants around the world
- grecy 6y agoSorry, you're right, I did get confused. All the same, do we have expected production numbers, and when production is expected to ramp up to those numbers? (for the ID.3 and ID.4) ?
- reitzensteinm 6y agoI'm scratching my head at you believing VW is being "very" quiet. They give pretty regular updates on their Twitter account, break down targets, current production and construction progress by factory, and the company as a whole seems proud of their progress. For instance Zwickau is at 800 per day for ID.3/ID.4 lines combined, and targeting 1400 this summer for the same (keep in mind it's a five day work week, this annualizes to 330k units). ID.5 is in test production there as well. I feel like I know roughly as much about what the VW group (including Porsche, Audi etc) is up to as I do about Tesla. Many other car makers are keeping their cards closer to their chest, and it's presumably not because they're holding a winning hand. https://twitter.com/vwsachsen_de https://twitter.com/vwsachsen_de
- grecy 6y agoThanks, I hadn't seen that twitter account, and as I don't speak German it's difficult to parse.
- reitzensteinm 6y agoMatthias Schmidt is probably worth a follow. He documents industry progress towards the tightening EU emissions regulations, which is a fascinating subject in itself. The electric vehicles subreddit also covers the wider industry in some detail - although often in the form of passive aggressive shitposting between Tesla bulls and bears. https://mobile.twitter.com/auto_schmidt/status/1364938710798786561 https://mobile.twitter.com/auto_schmidt/status/1364938710798...