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It is amazing to me that people have fallen for the propaganda that Tesla is a battery company. They buy their batteries from the same companies as everyone els

It is amazing to me that people have fallen for the propaganda that Tesla is a battery company. They buy their batteries from the same companies as everyone else. Tesla doesn't make its own batteries. That is the fact. Anything else is bluster.

akmarinov 6y ago
What are they doing at the Nevada factory then? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-04/tesla-flips-the-switch-on-the-gigafactory https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-04/tesla-fli... https://www.tesla.com/blog/battery-cell-production-begins-gigafactory https://www.tesla.com/blog/battery-cell-production-begins-gi... > by 2018, the Gigafactory will produce 35 GWh/year of lithium-ion battery cells, nearly as much as the rest of the entire world’s battery production combined.
- graetzer 6y ago
  The battery cells are made by Panasonic on-site https://techcrunch.com/2020/09/08/panasonic-to-expand-battery-capacity-at-tesla-gigafactory/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/09/08/panasonic-to-expand-batter...
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- ben_w 6y ago
  What they’re doing is “working with Panasonic”: https://na.panasonic.com/us/whatmovesus/gigafactory https://na.panasonic.com/us/whatmovesus/gigafactory (Not that I begrudge them for having good strategic partners; Apple doesn’t manufacture the iPhone, Amazon doesn’t manufacture the Kindle).
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sschueller 6y ago
People seem to loose the ability for critical thinking when they become worshippers of a product/company or man. Tesla's battery slideshow showing their new battery that supposedly has 50% more energy also happens to be that much larger. But for what ever reason their marketing people thought it would be ethical to make them the same size on the slides.
codeulike 6y ago
You need to distinguish between battery cells and battery packs - a pack being thousands of cells combined with complex monitoring, heating and cooling systems. Cells are made at the gigafactory by panasonic (to a tesla design). But the battery packs are manufactured by Tesla, and there is a lot of engineering and innovation in the packs themselves.
vardump 6y ago
Can you explain Tesla's 10 GWh/year Kato Road battery pilot plant then? Even though it's experimental, it's already about 10th largest battery production plant in the world.

akmarinov 6y ago

What are they doing at the Nevada factory then? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-04/tesla-flips-the-switch-on-the-gigafactory https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-04/tesla-fli... https://www.tesla.com/blog/battery-cell-production-begins-gigafactory https://www.tesla.com/blog/battery-cell-production-begins-gi... > by 2018, the Gigafactory will produce 35 GWh/year of lithium-ion battery cells, nearly as much as the rest of the entire world’s battery production combined.

graetzer 6y ago
The battery cells are made by Panasonic on-site https://techcrunch.com/2020/09/08/panasonic-to-expand-battery-capacity-at-tesla-gigafactory/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/09/08/panasonic-to-expand-batter...
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ben_w 6y ago
What they’re doing is “working with Panasonic”: https://na.panasonic.com/us/whatmovesus/gigafactory https://na.panasonic.com/us/whatmovesus/gigafactory (Not that I begrudge them for having good strategic partners; Apple doesn’t manufacture the iPhone, Amazon doesn’t manufacture the Kindle).
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sschueller 6y ago

People seem to loose the ability for critical thinking when they become worshippers of a product/company or man. Tesla's battery slideshow showing their new battery that supposedly has 50% more energy also happens to be that much larger. But for what ever reason their marketing people thought it would be ethical to make them the same size on the slides.

codeulike 6y ago

You need to distinguish between battery cells and battery packs - a pack being thousands of cells combined with complex monitoring, heating and cooling systems. Cells are made at the gigafactory by panasonic (to a tesla design). But the battery packs are manufactured by Tesla, and there is a lot of engineering and innovation in the packs themselves.

vardump 6y ago

Can you explain Tesla's 10 GWh/year Kato Road battery pilot plant then? Even though it's experimental, it's already about 10th largest battery production plant in the world.