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New Mobile Safari stuff in iOS5

74 points by franksvalli 15y ago

sant0sk1 15y ago
I'm very disappointed that you still can't upload files in Mobile Safari. I "get" the whole no filesystem thing, but come on at least show the photo/video picker. Little impossibilities like this make mobile web apps perpetually less useful than native apps, and that sucks.
- arethuza 15y ago
  You can upload pics from Safari using Picup: http://picupapp.com/ http://picupapp.com/
  - vesto 15y ago
    Yes, but remember that this requires the user to download a separate app in order to have the upload functionality in yours. Your web application would have to be pretty damn good to get a user to go through that much effort in order to use it.
    - arethuza 15y ago
      Just pointing out that it isn't impossible just merely extremely inconvenient to load pics through Safari.
      - bergie 15y ago
        We've been using the photo sending by email functionality for this
- SoftwareMaven 15y ago
  Use a different browser. iCab Mobile supports uploading, downloading, and side-loading to DropBox or iDisk. The only time I use Safari is when I clock a link in Mail or Twitter or some other client; otherwise, I use iCab almost exclusively.
  - joelackner 15y ago
    while i use icab 99% of the time, i've hit a few limits. first off, not being able to set it as a default browser is frustrating. secondly, i've found a few rendering differences between it and safari: onswipe (the tablet theme powering wordpress.com blogs) and google font api being the two biggest ones i've ran into recently.
    - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
      Jailbreaking will take care of the first issue (can't wait to jailbreak my iPad...). I agree that there are some issues with it (it crashes frequently enough that I care), but, overall, I've found, overall, it is much better. Features I use daily: * Pinboard current page * ReadItLater current page * Readability * Side-load to DropBox to pick up on my Mac * Youtube inside the browser * Ad filters And so on...
swix 15y ago
If no one gets before me ill verify today if Nitro is running in WebView / Fullscreen webapps, I would also like to check if webgl is working now but can't check right now, at work. Great news that webworkers are "working" :) I'm sure we'll also get an update from Phoboslab and impactjs if there are any significant performance gains elsewhere for html5 graphics.
bergie 15y ago
No word of whether activating a contentEditable now opens the keyboard. That'd be a big step for lots of content-focused web apps
- ComputerGuru 15y ago
  Give me a sample URI and I'll check it for you. Or wait until I have the time to write up a naive example.
  - bergie 15y ago
    Try http://aloha-editor.org/ http://aloha-editor.org/
    - ComputerGuru 15y ago
      Well, that link is down right now, but I tried http://html5demos.com/contenteditable http://html5demos.com/contenteditable aaaaaand....... It worked :) It appeared to be a normal webpage, but as soon as I pressed in the middle of the paragraph, the keyboard sprung open and a frame surrounded the ContentEditable object.
    - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
      Too bad they can't be bothered to put any pricing information online. I have a project that needs an editor, it looks really good, AGPL is not even kind of an option, and I'm willing to pay for a license. But heck if I want to deal with "contacting" somebody to start thinking if it's worth looking at.
      - bergie 15y ago
        There is a bunch of other contentEditable implementations you may want to look at, many of them under a permissive open source license: https://github.com/alohaeditor/Aloha-Editor/issues/121 https://github.com/alohaeditor/Aloha-Editor/issues/121 BTW, the Aloha devs are willing to give exceptions to AGPL at least to open source projects.
mmuro 15y ago
position:fixed is the most welcome addition.
Aloisius 15y ago
Man I hope the datetime picker allows masks/filters. I'd like to limit minutes to say, every half an hour.
- smackfu 15y ago
  Here is the spec: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/states-of-the-type-attribute.html#date-and-time-state http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/... There is a step attribute. I don't know if they implemented that.
hmahncke 15y ago
Any word on adequate html5/javascript sound support; e.g., does the demo at http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/demo/christmas-lights/ http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/demo/chris... work better than iOS4 (where the lag is huge)?
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calmmie 15y ago
Guy I just found a web browser does flash page without paying monthly fees. Puffin browser!! Check it out

74 points by franksvalli 15y ago

I'm very disappointed that you still can't upload files in Mobile Safari. I "get" the whole no filesystem thing, but come on at least show the photo/video picker. Little impossibilities like this make mobile web apps perpetually less useful than native apps, and that sucks.

arethuza 15y ago
You can upload pics from Safari using Picup: http://picupapp.com/ http://picupapp.com/
- vesto 15y ago
  Yes, but remember that this requires the user to download a separate app in order to have the upload functionality in yours. Your web application would have to be pretty damn good to get a user to go through that much effort in order to use it.
  - arethuza 15y ago
    Just pointing out that it isn't impossible just merely extremely inconvenient to load pics through Safari.
    - bergie 15y ago
      We've been using the photo sending by email functionality for this
SoftwareMaven 15y ago
Use a different browser. iCab Mobile supports uploading, downloading, and side-loading to DropBox or iDisk. The only time I use Safari is when I clock a link in Mail or Twitter or some other client; otherwise, I use iCab almost exclusively.
- joelackner 15y ago
  while i use icab 99% of the time, i've hit a few limits. first off, not being able to set it as a default browser is frustrating. secondly, i've found a few rendering differences between it and safari: onswipe (the tablet theme powering wordpress.com blogs) and google font api being the two biggest ones i've ran into recently.
  - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
    Jailbreaking will take care of the first issue (can't wait to jailbreak my iPad...). I agree that there are some issues with it (it crashes frequently enough that I care), but, overall, I've found, overall, it is much better. Features I use daily: * Pinboard current page * ReadItLater current page * Readability * Side-load to DropBox to pick up on my Mac * Youtube inside the browser * Ad filters And so on...

swix 15y ago

If no one gets before me ill verify today if Nitro is running in WebView / Fullscreen webapps, I would also like to check if webgl is working now but can't check right now, at work. Great news that webworkers are "working" :) I'm sure we'll also get an update from Phoboslab and impactjs if there are any significant performance gains elsewhere for html5 graphics.

bergie 15y ago

No word of whether activating a contentEditable now opens the keyboard. That'd be a big step for lots of content-focused web apps

ComputerGuru 15y ago
Give me a sample URI and I'll check it for you. Or wait until I have the time to write up a naive example.
- bergie 15y ago
  Try http://aloha-editor.org/ http://aloha-editor.org/
  - ComputerGuru 15y ago
    Well, that link is down right now, but I tried http://html5demos.com/contenteditable http://html5demos.com/contenteditable aaaaaand....... It worked :) It appeared to be a normal webpage, but as soon as I pressed in the middle of the paragraph, the keyboard sprung open and a frame surrounded the ContentEditable object.
  - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
    Too bad they can't be bothered to put any pricing information online. I have a project that needs an editor, it looks really good, AGPL is not even kind of an option, and I'm willing to pay for a license. But heck if I want to deal with "contacting" somebody to start thinking if it's worth looking at.
    - bergie 15y ago
      There is a bunch of other contentEditable implementations you may want to look at, many of them under a permissive open source license: https://github.com/alohaeditor/Aloha-Editor/issues/121 https://github.com/alohaeditor/Aloha-Editor/issues/121 BTW, the Aloha devs are willing to give exceptions to AGPL at least to open source projects.

mmuro 15y ago

position:fixed is the most welcome addition.

Aloisius 15y ago

Man I hope the datetime picker allows masks/filters. I'd like to limit minutes to say, every half an hour.

smackfu 15y ago
Here is the spec: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/states-of-the-type-attribute.html#date-and-time-state http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/... There is a step attribute. I don't know if they implemented that.

hmahncke 15y ago

Any word on adequate html5/javascript sound support; e.g., does the demo at http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/demo/christmas-lights/ http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/demo/chris... work better than iOS4 (where the lag is huge)?

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calmmie 15y ago

Guy I just found a web browser does flash page without paying monthly fees. Puffin browser!! Check it out