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All the shady data schemes and dark patterns in todays idea of software business motivated me to look to my phone as an enemy and using the web cautiously all t

by nbzso 6y ago

All the shady data schemes and dark patterns in todays idea of software business motivated me to look to my phone as an enemy and using the web cautiously all the time. Actually the idea of hyperconnected future in which 24/7 monitoring of the individuals will be normalised and mandatory makes me cringe. The Internet from force of good is turning to dystopian toolchain by the hour. And all is because we as society cannot find an effective way to limit the greed.

federona 6y ago
Society, current society also called capitalism, is designed not for greed but constant growth. When your goal is not satisfaction but constant growth and you already are a billion dollar company, then it makes you look at all the shady shit you can still do and get away with in order to grow. These companies don't need to grow, if anything they actually should be growing smaller and sustainable if we actually wanted to engineer towards goodness rather than money. The fact that the rich are getting richer while having absolutely no need for it says to me our prerogatives are wrong and our engineering about business is wrong. A lot of the common laws rules and norms around which business is built are insane. That is to say that if the economy is a mirror of nature, then businesses should be engineered to die. Not to be a going concern forever. After a certain amount of profit is extracted and life is lived, into the grave they should go. Not just as a result of competition, but as a result of system design. This would then lead to a more evolutionary world and better distribution of power and resources rather than continuous monopolizing and consolidation. Also a different mentality of you can't take it with you to the grave, rather than infinite mindset. It would be a cyclical mindset about finite things, not infinite things. Corporations want to be people, so engineer them like people and less like machines.
throwawei369 6y ago
Wait until iot becomes mainstream. I foresee tiny chips creating mass scale mutiny against their creators and colonizing us (best case scenario)
- shervinafshar 6y ago
  I wonder how dystopian sci-fi would read in such future? I mean...what would be their parable of The Matrix?
  - throwawei369 6y ago
    You joke. But what if we we're playing right into their game and robot resistance is already underway. What if there's more to the vaccines we're injecting into ourselves? Is Bill Gates even a real person or just a simulation?
Klwohu 6y ago
The Internet was designed to be dystopian before it was even technically implemented.
wruza 6y ago
Because some [ˈklʌbhaʊs], a shitty app promoted and used by hype-flex-and-chill type of “people”? Just let them be and move on, what do you think you miss there? If you see them as a source of income, a second job-only phone is a must anyway.

by nbzso 6y ago

federona 6y ago

Society, current society also called capitalism, is designed not for greed but constant growth. When your goal is not satisfaction but constant growth and you already are a billion dollar company, then it makes you look at all the shady shit you can still do and get away with in order to grow. These companies don't need to grow, if anything they actually should be growing smaller and sustainable if we actually wanted to engineer towards goodness rather than money. The fact that the rich are getting richer while having absolutely no need for it says to me our prerogatives are wrong and our engineering about business is wrong. A lot of the common laws rules and norms around which business is built are insane. That is to say that if the economy is a mirror of nature, then businesses should be engineered to die. Not to be a going concern forever. After a certain amount of profit is extracted and life is lived, into the grave they should go. Not just as a result of competition, but as a result of system design. This would then lead to a more evolutionary world and better distribution of power and resources rather than continuous monopolizing and consolidation. Also a different mentality of you can't take it with you to the grave, rather than infinite mindset. It would be a cyclical mindset about finite things, not infinite things. Corporations want to be people, so engineer them like people and less like machines.

throwawei369 6y ago

Wait until iot becomes mainstream. I foresee tiny chips creating mass scale mutiny against their creators and colonizing us (best case scenario)

shervinafshar 6y ago
I wonder how dystopian sci-fi would read in such future? I mean...what would be their parable of The Matrix?
- throwawei369 6y ago
  You joke. But what if we we're playing right into their game and robot resistance is already underway. What if there's more to the vaccines we're injecting into ourselves? Is Bill Gates even a real person or just a simulation?

Klwohu 6y ago

The Internet was designed to be dystopian before it was even technically implemented.

wruza 6y ago

Because some [ˈklʌbhaʊs], a shitty app promoted and used by hype-flex-and-chill type of “people”? Just let them be and move on, what do you think you miss there? If you see them as a source of income, a second job-only phone is a must anyway.