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Kind of providing an ECS-based game pre-2016, before Factorio, Minecraft Non-Java, They Are Billions and Overwatch (as I was told in a comment) got released?

dkersten 6y ago
Dungeon Siege, although the slides where this was revealed seem to no longer be online. Additionally, here is the blog post from 2007 that largely introduced the concept in the form we know now, based on the Dungeon Siege talk and others: http://t-machine.org/index.php/2007/09/03/entity-systems-are-the-future-of-mmog-development-part-1/ http://t-machine.org/index.php/2007/09/03/entity-systems-are... Although, arguably, Dungeon Siege's component architecture is different from what we call ECS today. EDIT: I found the slides: https://www.gamedevs.org/uploads/data-driven-game-object-system.pdf https://www.gamedevs.org/uploads/data-driven-game-object-sys...
- johnnycerberus 6y ago
  Thanks, I will check them out. I'm out of the loop when it comes to older games since for me game development is only a recent hobby. I'm developing Big Data stuff mostly with Java and Scala, but I have been playing with data-oriented stuff in Clojure, hence my interest.
  - dkersten 6y ago
    Funnily enough, I came to it in reverse: I learned about ECS years ago (from the tmachine series of posts, posts about Dungeon Siege, and others I can't remember) and became interested in Clojure's data-oriented stuff because of my interest in ECS. Although, I became interested in and used Clojure already, due to its focus on immutability and functional programming, before people really started pushing the data-oriented aspects, so it was an easy evolution for me.
jonhermansen 6y ago
For anyone curious to know more about usage of ECS in Overwatch, check out this GDC talk from one of the developers: https://youtu.be/W3aieHjyNvw https://youtu.be/W3aieHjyNvw
- dividuum 6y ago
  Awesome talk. Thanks for linking.
pjmlp 6y ago
Not a game, but standard software models, "Component Software: Beyond Object-Oriented Programming", 1998 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201178885 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201178885

dkersten 6y ago

Dungeon Siege, although the slides where this was revealed seem to no longer be online. Additionally, here is the blog post from 2007 that largely introduced the concept in the form we know now, based on the Dungeon Siege talk and others: http://t-machine.org/index.php/2007/09/03/entity-systems-are-the-future-of-mmog-development-part-1/ http://t-machine.org/index.php/2007/09/03/entity-systems-are... Although, arguably, Dungeon Siege's component architecture is different from what we call ECS today. EDIT: I found the slides: https://www.gamedevs.org/uploads/data-driven-game-object-system.pdf https://www.gamedevs.org/uploads/data-driven-game-object-sys...

johnnycerberus 6y ago
Thanks, I will check them out. I'm out of the loop when it comes to older games since for me game development is only a recent hobby. I'm developing Big Data stuff mostly with Java and Scala, but I have been playing with data-oriented stuff in Clojure, hence my interest.
- dkersten 6y ago
  Funnily enough, I came to it in reverse: I learned about ECS years ago (from the tmachine series of posts, posts about Dungeon Siege, and others I can't remember) and became interested in Clojure's data-oriented stuff because of my interest in ECS. Although, I became interested in and used Clojure already, due to its focus on immutability and functional programming, before people really started pushing the data-oriented aspects, so it was an easy evolution for me.

jonhermansen 6y ago

For anyone curious to know more about usage of ECS in Overwatch, check out this GDC talk from one of the developers: https://youtu.be/W3aieHjyNvw https://youtu.be/W3aieHjyNvw

dividuum 6y ago
Awesome talk. Thanks for linking.

pjmlp 6y ago

Not a game, but standard software models, "Component Software: Beyond Object-Oriented Programming", 1998 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201178885 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201178885