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“The buck stops here” is also a well known saying. President Truman had a sign on his desk with the saying.

srswtf123 6y ago
Alas, thats a relic of a bygone era. More recently, our politicians simply “don’t recall”, or worse directly lie to us. For C-level folks, its simpler. Take no responsibility ever, unless forced to by the courts. Even then, taking actual responsibility is so rare that I have no examples.
pkulak 6y ago
Sadly, now the people with the most power also want the least responsibility (and the most money).
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- toss1 6y ago
  Yes, this describes nicely what sociopaths seek. That this is common in most organizations shows that most larger organizations end up being selection systems for filtering sociopathic to the top. It is not because their are deliberately designed this way, but because this is what sociopaths seek, and the organization fails to actively filter against it.
  - pmontra 6y ago
    About sociopaths and management https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...
    - toss1 6y ago
      Great article - I'd seen another on the S/C/L model, possibly by the same guy, and this one went into more depth - it's a really interesting insight - thx!
      - pmontra 6y ago
        My pleasure. It was posted a long time ago on HN and also a few months ago. Actually I didn't notice the recent repost. See https://hn.algolia.com/?q=Gervais https://hn.algolia.com/?q=Gervais
  - krapp 6y ago
    >It is not because their are deliberately designed this way, but because this is what sociopaths seek, and the organization fails to actively filter against it. The sociopaths are the ones designing the organization and creating the legal and bureaucratic frameworks ostensibly meant to filter them out. That the end result nurtures and rewards them and allows them to use their subordinates as a bullet sponge seems entirely deliberate.

Alas, thats a relic of a bygone era. More recently, our politicians simply “don’t recall”, or worse directly lie to us. For C-level folks, its simpler. Take no responsibility ever, unless forced to by the courts. Even then, taking actual responsibility is so rare that I have no examples.

pkulak 6y ago

Sadly, now the people with the most power also want the least responsibility (and the most money).

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toss1 6y ago
Yes, this describes nicely what sociopaths seek. That this is common in most organizations shows that most larger organizations end up being selection systems for filtering sociopathic to the top. It is not because their are deliberately designed this way, but because this is what sociopaths seek, and the organization fails to actively filter against it.
- pmontra 6y ago
  About sociopaths and management https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...
  - toss1 6y ago
    Great article - I'd seen another on the S/C/L model, possibly by the same guy, and this one went into more depth - it's a really interesting insight - thx!
    - pmontra 6y ago
      My pleasure. It was posted a long time ago on HN and also a few months ago. Actually I didn't notice the recent repost. See https://hn.algolia.com/?q=Gervais https://hn.algolia.com/?q=Gervais
- krapp 6y ago
  >It is not because their are deliberately designed this way, but because this is what sociopaths seek, and the organization fails to actively filter against it. The sociopaths are the ones designing the organization and creating the legal and bureaucratic frameworks ostensibly meant to filter them out. That the end result nurtures and rewards them and allows them to use their subordinates as a bullet sponge seems entirely deliberate.