> Yeah because driving a 50 square mile city is the same thing as driving on unrestricted roadways in dozens of countries around the world with totally differen

> Yeah because driving a 50 square mile city is the same thing as driving on unrestricted roadways in dozens of countries around the world with totally different road markings, traffic patterns, rules, and even directions of travel… Except it doesn’t work in the unrestricted conditions you mentioned. It’s going to take years or even decades to make it work everywhere, if it all it works. You don’t get points just having a grander vision. Meanwhile, they keep moving the goalpost on when FSD will actually arrive. They’ve been working on it for years and yet they’re nowhere near confident enough not to require hands on the wheel. That tells me everything. Anyway, this is an argument that’s going nowhere since you seem to undermine by saying Waymo is solving a “toy problem”. So let’s agree to disagree which one is more impressive.