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> even while driving across an empty parking lot going 10 mph, or being on private property Being on private property does not imply you can break the law. And

> even while driving across an empty parking lot going 10 mph, or being on private property Being on private property does not imply you can break the law. And also being on private property does not imply lower chances or killing you self. If that were the case, construction workers would be in a really bad place since all of them work on “private property” - does that imply that they should not pay attention to health and safety? > you can't set height of headlamps manually anymore (good for xeon which burn out everyone else's eyes even with default height settings...) Why would you need to change the height of the headlights? Would you prefer for police to be given devices to detect if your lights were misconfigured when they stop you so that they could enforce that? Any safety methodology would tell you it’s easier to make sure people are unable to make mistakes rather than trying to make people conscious enough not to make them. Aviation industry is highly praised for that. > Being in total control for me includes an ability to shoot yourself in the foot. That’s the case where shooting yourself in the foot also implies shooting the brains out of a person who was stupid enough to stand a floor below you when you were shooting yourself in the foot. > power users use Linux But for example hardware running on Linux with high externalities if misconfigured is generally locked up (for example 4G modems and WiFi radio equipment). It will be really expensive for you to get your hands on “hacker” equipment to play with this.

PeterisP 6y ago
Being on private property does not imply you can break the law, however, many road vehicle/traffic regulations explicitly apply only to roads open to public traffic (which may include some private property e.g. parking lots). If the law says "it's forbidden to do X on public roads", you're not breaking the law if you do that thing on a private track. Details vary between locations, but seatbelts, roadworthiness, insurance, speed limits, etc generally are things that you are allowed to ignore outside of public traffic. In your example of construction workers, other regulations (e.g. OSHA) would cover your concerns; but, for example, a truck driving up the ramp in a strip-mine would generally not be bound by traffic laws; construction sometimes uses various vehicles that simply can't ever legally participate in road traffic, they just get delivered as "cargo" or assembled/disassembled on-site.
- heavenlyblue 6y ago
  > allowed to ignore outside of public traffic. Can you please explain to me how it is safer not to wear a seatbelt on a private property? i.e. from one side of things it's obviously legal not to wear one, but from the reality side of things it's obviously stupid. That being said are you sure this is not only the case in the US in the first place?

PeterisP 6y ago

Being on private property does not imply you can break the law, however, many road vehicle/traffic regulations explicitly apply only to roads open to public traffic (which may include some private property e.g. parking lots). If the law says "it's forbidden to do X on public roads", you're not breaking the law if you do that thing on a private track. Details vary between locations, but seatbelts, roadworthiness, insurance, speed limits, etc generally are things that you are allowed to ignore outside of public traffic. In your example of construction workers, other regulations (e.g. OSHA) would cover your concerns; but, for example, a truck driving up the ramp in a strip-mine would generally not be bound by traffic laws; construction sometimes uses various vehicles that simply can't ever legally participate in road traffic, they just get delivered as "cargo" or assembled/disassembled on-site.

heavenlyblue 6y ago
> allowed to ignore outside of public traffic. Can you please explain to me how it is safer not to wear a seatbelt on a private property? i.e. from one side of things it's obviously legal not to wear one, but from the reality side of things it's obviously stupid. That being said are you sure this is not only the case in the US in the first place?