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Firefox continually makes it hard to stay a Firefox fan. I just can't go to Chrome, but seriously it gets harder every release.

by ProAm 6y ago

dralley 6y ago
Could you articulate why? Because for me, Firefox keeps getting faster, more secure, and better at preserving privacy every release.
- foobar33333 6y ago
  People buy too much in to online drama. Mozilla makes some random or stupid blog posts which have nothing to do with firefox really and people lose their minds and spam "Thats it, I'm using chrome now"
  - ProAm 6y ago
    I'm talking about years of slow weird changes, just a blog post. Is the straw on the camel. Im still a FF user, I dislike chrome but like I mentioned FF/Mozilla makes it hard to stay that way.
- ProAm 6y ago
  I don't like how they make sigificant changes to the UI and deploy the changes with security updates. The toolbar was the last major change where it looks drastically different and functions different (and the fact that for one release you could undo it, the next release you could undo it but in a different manner and much more difficult, and finally I dont think you can undo it at all). The new password manager is another example of significant functionality changes. A browser is a tool, I dont want to relearn how to use my screwdriver because a new version came out. Don't get me wrong, Im a huge firefox fan, I want them to win more market share, I've used it exclusively for 10+ years. But some of the changes are unnecessary and I should have to pin my security of being forced to use it.
Bakary 6y ago
Let's examine the proposition. Firefox pros: the browser works, has good support for add-ons and some features not found in Chrome such as containers. Can generally be assumed to be privacy-friendly to some degree Cons: some cringe-worthy decisions such as that Mr. Robot thing, the sort of waste of donations in the OP link, and occasional minor performance issues compared to Chrome. The biggest problem seems to be the continued survival of the project over time Chrome pros: I don't use Chrome but as far as I can tell it benefits from being the default browser that devs optimize for and reportedly has good developer tools. cons: essentially a monopolistic data-gathering tool for one of the shadiest ad companies on Earth. Slowly introducing user-unfriendly features, even in Chromium As far as I can tell the rational choice would be Firefox (or some derivative browser) barring some specific technical need for Chrome. The downsides of Chrome just seem so much more egregious than the occasional Mozilla silliness.
- ProAm 6y ago
  I agree. Im still a FF fan and user at the end of the day. I just dont want to view my browser choice in therms of "It could be worse..."

Firefox continually makes it hard to stay a Firefox fan. I just can't go to Chrome, but seriously it gets harder every release.

by ProAm 6y ago

Firefox continually makes it hard to stay a Firefox fan. I just can't go to Chrome, but seriously it gets harder every release.

dralley 6y ago

Could you articulate why? Because for me, Firefox keeps getting faster, more secure, and better at preserving privacy every release.

foobar33333 6y ago
People buy too much in to online drama. Mozilla makes some random or stupid blog posts which have nothing to do with firefox really and people lose their minds and spam "Thats it, I'm using chrome now"
- ProAm 6y ago
  I'm talking about years of slow weird changes, just a blog post. Is the straw on the camel. Im still a FF user, I dislike chrome but like I mentioned FF/Mozilla makes it hard to stay that way.
ProAm 6y ago
I don't like how they make sigificant changes to the UI and deploy the changes with security updates. The toolbar was the last major change where it looks drastically different and functions different (and the fact that for one release you could undo it, the next release you could undo it but in a different manner and much more difficult, and finally I dont think you can undo it at all). The new password manager is another example of significant functionality changes. A browser is a tool, I dont want to relearn how to use my screwdriver because a new version came out. Don't get me wrong, Im a huge firefox fan, I want them to win more market share, I've used it exclusively for 10+ years. But some of the changes are unnecessary and I should have to pin my security of being forced to use it.

Bakary 6y ago

Let's examine the proposition. Firefox pros: the browser works, has good support for add-ons and some features not found in Chrome such as containers. Can generally be assumed to be privacy-friendly to some degree Cons: some cringe-worthy decisions such as that Mr. Robot thing, the sort of waste of donations in the OP link, and occasional minor performance issues compared to Chrome. The biggest problem seems to be the continued survival of the project over time Chrome pros: I don't use Chrome but as far as I can tell it benefits from being the default browser that devs optimize for and reportedly has good developer tools. cons: essentially a monopolistic data-gathering tool for one of the shadiest ad companies on Earth. Slowly introducing user-unfriendly features, even in Chromium As far as I can tell the rational choice would be Firefox (or some derivative browser) barring some specific technical need for Chrome. The downsides of Chrome just seem so much more egregious than the occasional Mozilla silliness.

ProAm 6y ago
I agree. Im still a FF fan and user at the end of the day. I just dont want to view my browser choice in therms of "It could be worse..."