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>Because we care about combatting misinformation (yet another reason to use Firefox) I'm not sure I understand what they may be referencing here. How does usin

by ve55 6y ago

>Because we care about combatting misinformation (yet another reason to use Firefox) I'm not sure I understand what they may be referencing here. How does using Firefox relate to combating misinformation?

SwiftyBug 6y ago
I think they meant that it's preferable to use a browser made by a company who cares about combating misinformation than one made by a company (Google implied) that does not. Many inferences in this statement.
dahdum 6y ago
Their values are summed up in their manifesto here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ From that page: "We are committed to an internet that promotes civil discourse, human dignity, and individual expression."
- ve55 6y ago
  I see that, but I don't think it answers the question. If anything it seems partially contradictory.
  - dahdum 6y ago
    They're promising they'll only promote speech they've determined is civil, reasoned, fact based, and for the common good. Free speech is not a goal, much less freedom to spread misinformation. To the extent it matters I don't know, but I would assume they'd never enhance Firefox or launch any products that enable unsavory speech.
    - disposekinetics 6y ago
      > To the extent it matters I don't know, but I would assume they'd never enhance Firefox or launch any products that enable unsavory speech. Shame, the internet was built on radical free speech. "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around" used to be the ethos.
      - webmaven 6y ago
        > Shame, the internet was built on radical free speech. "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around" used to be the ethos. One can equally say that the Internet was built on netiquette (eg. 'RFC 1855 - Netiquette Guidelines': https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 ).
    - deburo 6y ago
      It seems more about their blog or their employees on Twitter.
- axaxs 6y ago
  Oh right. Promoting individual expression unless we disagree with that expression, in which case we force you out.
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gerdesj 6y ago
This is a "subtle" post. They link to https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/firefox-minimalist-logo https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/firefox-minimalist-logo They are pointing out that some folk have noted that their logo is getting more and more stylistic and the fox bit might disappear. Some of the comments/memes about this are implying via the logo that FF is losing their way. Good skills FF and that reminds me to get off my arse and ditch some other browsers. I moved from FF to Chrom{ium} wholesale a few (10+?) years back because "reasons" - probably compatibility. I used to use the old FF sync thing and it was a right old pain moving to the Google one but seemed the right thing to do at the time. Now I think I'll move back to FF again and keep my bookmarks etc to myself. Then I'll migrate my firm and then my customers and my family of course. Browser sync data costs less than pence to manage (I have quite a lot of sites, storage and decent links to piss around with.) Sorry, mind fart dump! Using FF does not combat anything: it's a bloody web browser - no more or less. However the programmers behind FF are ostensibly quite keen on privacy and the like.

by ve55 6y ago

SwiftyBug 6y ago

I think they meant that it's preferable to use a browser made by a company who cares about combating misinformation than one made by a company (Google implied) that does not. Many inferences in this statement.

dahdum 6y ago

Their values are summed up in their manifesto here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/ From that page: "We are committed to an internet that promotes civil discourse, human dignity, and individual expression."

ve55 6y ago
I see that, but I don't think it answers the question. If anything it seems partially contradictory.
- dahdum 6y ago
  They're promising they'll only promote speech they've determined is civil, reasoned, fact based, and for the common good. Free speech is not a goal, much less freedom to spread misinformation. To the extent it matters I don't know, but I would assume they'd never enhance Firefox or launch any products that enable unsavory speech.
  - disposekinetics 6y ago
    > To the extent it matters I don't know, but I would assume they'd never enhance Firefox or launch any products that enable unsavory speech. Shame, the internet was built on radical free speech. "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around" used to be the ethos.
    - webmaven 6y ago
      > Shame, the internet was built on radical free speech. "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around" used to be the ethos. One can equally say that the Internet was built on netiquette (eg. 'RFC 1855 - Netiquette Guidelines': https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 ).
  - deburo 6y ago
    It seems more about their blog or their employees on Twitter.
axaxs 6y ago
Oh right. Promoting individual expression unless we disagree with that expression, in which case we force you out.

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gerdesj 6y ago

This is a "subtle" post. They link to https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/firefox-minimalist-logo https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/firefox-minimalist-logo They are pointing out that some folk have noted that their logo is getting more and more stylistic and the fox bit might disappear. Some of the comments/memes about this are implying via the logo that FF is losing their way. Good skills FF and that reminds me to get off my arse and ditch some other browsers. I moved from FF to Chrom{ium} wholesale a few (10+?) years back because "reasons" - probably compatibility. I used to use the old FF sync thing and it was a right old pain moving to the Google one but seemed the right thing to do at the time. Now I think I'll move back to FF again and keep my bookmarks etc to myself. Then I'll migrate my firm and then my customers and my family of course. Browser sync data costs less than pence to manage (I have quite a lot of sites, storage and decent links to piss around with.) Sorry, mind fart dump! Using FF does not combat anything: it's a bloody web browser - no more or less. However the programmers behind FF are ostensibly quite keen on privacy and the like.