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It's pretty disrespectful to game developers to imply that their 'dreams are easily manipulated' when they take less money to work in a field that's more intere

by jonfw 6y ago

It's pretty disrespectful to game developers to imply that their 'dreams are easily manipulated' when they take less money to work in a field that's more interesting to them. This is a simple function of supply and demand, not naive developers too weak minded to resist executives. Developers interested in gaming are in high supply, while gaming pales economically in comparison to the fields where most of us work (presumably tech and fintech).

salamanderman 6y ago
Well, the executives, and the cult mentality within those companies, will tell the developers that they don't deserve more, and that they couldn't find better if they tried to leave, and that they are also easily replaceable. It is toxic manipulation. It would be fine, in some sense, if it were just supply and demand, but having seen the emotional breakdowns of a number of my friends, it is definitely more than that.
- jonfw 6y ago
  I can't imagine that the industry is so uniquely emotionally abusive that it would drive a disparity in earnings across such a large sample size. I'm sure that there are some bad apples though, and I'm sorry that your friends experienced that.
  - salamanderman 6y ago
    When companies like EA do it, it sets a standard.
UnpossibleJim 6y ago
I didn't mean to imply that developers are weak minded (I hope not - it's the industry I have worked in for the last 20 years). In 2020 alone the video game industry took in 179+ billion dollars vs. the "tech" industry's 409+ billion, so I'm not sure that saying it "pales" in comparison is completely fair. Meanwhile the term "tech" is pretty broad, while games is a very narrow focus that might well be included in the "tech" sales... I'm unsure how that umbrella term is calculated. Either way, I certainly meant no disrespect.
- jonfw 6y ago
  Google alone did more than 179B+ in 2020- https://www.statista.com/statistics/266206/googles-annual-global-revenue/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/266206/googles-annual-gl...

by jonfw 6y ago

salamanderman 6y ago

Well, the executives, and the cult mentality within those companies, will tell the developers that they don't deserve more, and that they couldn't find better if they tried to leave, and that they are also easily replaceable. It is toxic manipulation. It would be fine, in some sense, if it were just supply and demand, but having seen the emotional breakdowns of a number of my friends, it is definitely more than that.

jonfw 6y ago
I can't imagine that the industry is so uniquely emotionally abusive that it would drive a disparity in earnings across such a large sample size. I'm sure that there are some bad apples though, and I'm sorry that your friends experienced that.
- salamanderman 6y ago
  When companies like EA do it, it sets a standard.

UnpossibleJim 6y ago

I didn't mean to imply that developers are weak minded (I hope not - it's the industry I have worked in for the last 20 years). In 2020 alone the video game industry took in 179+ billion dollars vs. the "tech" industry's 409+ billion, so I'm not sure that saying it "pales" in comparison is completely fair. Meanwhile the term "tech" is pretty broad, while games is a very narrow focus that might well be included in the "tech" sales... I'm unsure how that umbrella term is calculated. Either way, I certainly meant no disrespect.

jonfw 6y ago
Google alone did more than 179B+ in 2020- https://www.statista.com/statistics/266206/googles-annual-global-revenue/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/266206/googles-annual-gl...