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> In Russia there's a small but active group of academics who are trying to bring (force?) Blackbox as a teaching/learning environment to schools and universiti

> In Russia there's a small but active group of academics who are trying to bring (force?) Blackbox as a teaching/learning environment to schools and universities. That's astonishing. The most recent English-language textbooks using Component Pascal are about 20 years old. Is there much newer stuff in Russian?

dmitriid 6y ago
There are a few newer books using Component Pascal in their code or examples: - Modern Programming from Scratch, 2011: https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774402/ https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774402/ - Art of Algorithms, 2011: https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774388/ https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774388/ - Computational Processes: Translation Theory, Data Management, Petri Nets, 2015: http://www.libex.ru/detail/book742088.html http://www.libex.ru/detail/book742088.html - Software Development with Blackbox, 2018 (positioned as a textbook for universities): https://lanbook.com/catalog/informatika/razrabotka-programmnykh-prilozheniy-v-srede-blackbox/ https://lanbook.com/catalog/informatika/razrabotka-programmn... Other books are translations of the same bookss from 20 years ago you mentioned. But the Oberon community is quite alive in Russia, and even have their own conference: https://conf.oberon.org/ https://conf.oberon.org/ Granted, these are mostly academics and people working in various state-related companies. I can't even begin to relay how bureaucratic and pompous-sounding that conference page is. "3rd scientific-industrial conference on Oberon, education on quality problems in the digital technologies", "Scientific and industry coordinators", "Program Committee", everyone is "M. Sc. PhD. Prof. Prof. Emeritus, Russian Government Education Prize Laureat" and wants darn sure you know about it: https://conf.oberon.org/about https://conf.oberon.org/about
- justin66 6y ago
  Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. Component Pascal doesn't strike me as a completely mad language to use, but Blackbox is just... old.

dmitriid 6y ago

There are a few newer books using Component Pascal in their code or examples: - Modern Programming from Scratch, 2011: https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774402/ https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774402/ - Art of Algorithms, 2011: https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774388/ https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/5774388/ - Computational Processes: Translation Theory, Data Management, Petri Nets, 2015: http://www.libex.ru/detail/book742088.html http://www.libex.ru/detail/book742088.html - Software Development with Blackbox, 2018 (positioned as a textbook for universities): https://lanbook.com/catalog/informatika/razrabotka-programmnykh-prilozheniy-v-srede-blackbox/ https://lanbook.com/catalog/informatika/razrabotka-programmn... Other books are translations of the same bookss from 20 years ago you mentioned. But the Oberon community is quite alive in Russia, and even have their own conference: https://conf.oberon.org/ https://conf.oberon.org/ Granted, these are mostly academics and people working in various state-related companies. I can't even begin to relay how bureaucratic and pompous-sounding that conference page is. "3rd scientific-industrial conference on Oberon, education on quality problems in the digital technologies", "Scientific and industry coordinators", "Program Committee", everyone is "M. Sc. PhD. Prof. Prof. Emeritus, Russian Government Education Prize Laureat" and wants darn sure you know about it: https://conf.oberon.org/about https://conf.oberon.org/about

justin66 6y ago
Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. Component Pascal doesn't strike me as a completely mad language to use, but Blackbox is just... old.