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Even worse, SV is located in a country that is not better than Saudi Arabia when we talk about extra-judicial killings (just think about Obama-era drone killing

Even worse, SV is located in a country that is not better than Saudi Arabia when we talk about extra-judicial killings (just think about Obama-era drone killings)

sofixa 6y ago
And still has a military-run black site for illegal detainment and torture. And not only that, they refuse international law and to subject their war criminals to prosecution. Strike that, they have a law allowing themselves to invade anyone investigating their war criminals, have sanctioned such investigators, and actively pardon war criminals.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  The US has some history of politically-motivated suppression of journalists (Assange), but has yet to advance to murdering them.
boc 6y ago
Trump continued (and even increased) the drone killings, but removed the reporting requirements. Calling it the "Obama-era drone killings" ignores the unprecedented amount of killings under the previous administration. Source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-kill...
- corpMaverick 6y ago
  Furthermore. The Obama admin added transparency and accountability measures while the Trump admin ditched them.
  - 8note 6y ago
    I'm sure it will be great solace to the families of those murdered by America that the Americans are proud to talk about it again
  - jandrese 6y ago
    Hence the reason they are still the Obama drone strikes. Out of sight out of mind.
- mrighele 6y ago
  I call it Obama-era because the guy got a Nobel Peace Prize while doing that. I have a even lower opinion of Trump, but at least he was widely despised by the international community, unlike the former
Chris2048 6y ago
> not better than Saudi Arabia > Obama-era drone killings The drone killings are not good, but in no way equivalent to the ills of SA. The murder of a journalist isn't the same as the murder of a wanted violent criminal.
- fishmaster 6y ago
  Yeah, because those drones only kill 'violent criminals', not also civilians. Also, these 'violent criminals' have a right for a fair process, otherwise it's just murder - which it is.
  - Chris2048 6y ago
    I'm pretty sure I described both cases as murder. In any case: when has the US targeted civilians? And where does the "right to X" come from?

Even worse, SV is located in a country that is not better than Saudi Arabia when we talk about extra-judicial killings (just think about Obama-era drone killings)

sofixa 6y ago

And still has a military-run black site for illegal detainment and torture. And not only that, they refuse international law and to subject their war criminals to prosecution. Strike that, they have a law allowing themselves to invade anyone investigating their war criminals, have sanctioned such investigators, and actively pardon war criminals.

Chris2048 6y ago
The US has some history of politically-motivated suppression of journalists (Assange), but has yet to advance to murdering them.

boc 6y ago

Trump continued (and even increased) the drone killings, but removed the reporting requirements. Calling it the "Obama-era drone killings" ignores the unprecedented amount of killings under the previous administration. Source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-kill...

corpMaverick 6y ago
Furthermore. The Obama admin added transparency and accountability measures while the Trump admin ditched them.
- 8note 6y ago
  I'm sure it will be great solace to the families of those murdered by America that the Americans are proud to talk about it again
- jandrese 6y ago
  Hence the reason they are still the Obama drone strikes. Out of sight out of mind.
mrighele 6y ago
I call it Obama-era because the guy got a Nobel Peace Prize while doing that. I have a even lower opinion of Trump, but at least he was widely despised by the international community, unlike the former

Chris2048 6y ago

> not better than Saudi Arabia > Obama-era drone killings The drone killings are not good, but in no way equivalent to the ills of SA. The murder of a journalist isn't the same as the murder of a wanted violent criminal.

fishmaster 6y ago
Yeah, because those drones only kill 'violent criminals', not also civilians. Also, these 'violent criminals' have a right for a fair process, otherwise it's just murder - which it is.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  I'm pretty sure I described both cases as murder. In any case: when has the US targeted civilians? And where does the "right to X" come from?