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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/peace-president-how-obama-came-bomb-seven-countries-six-years-9753131.html https://www.independent.co.uk/ne

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/peace-president-how-obama-came-bomb-seven-countries-six-years-9753131.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/peace-p... Almost six years later, Mr Obama has approved military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and now Syria. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism (BIJ) estimates the Obama administration has launched more than 390 drone strikes in five years across Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia – eight times as many approved during the entire Bush Presidency.

duxup 6y ago
That doesn't seem to relate to what I said. Obama making decisions on his own doesn't have anything to do with middle east nation's interest in US approval for their own actions.
- hn8788 6y ago
  Killing people in other countries because their government isn't doing enough to fight extremism doesn't sound like they've been "left to their own devices".
  - duxup 6y ago
    "left to their own devices" doesn't mean that the US (or anyone else) would be uninvolved in things. I'm addressing what those middle east nations choose to do and who they consult with, get 'approval' from / etc.
    - Grustaf 6y ago
      > "left to their own devices" doesn't mean that the US (or anyone else) would be uninvolved in things. What? That's exactly what it means.
Shivetya 6y ago
and less than a hundred days into his Presidency Biden is bombing the Middle East; a guy who claimed he would use military power responsibly and his supporters mocked Trump supporters that claimed otherwise. The simple fact is we have very little justification to criticize the actions of other nations when we cannot even go an Administration without attacking another nation.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  1) what makes the bombing a non-responsible use of military power? 2) Why is the US not allowed to "attack[] another nation"? esp given it was a response to attacks on American/coalition personnel?

duxup 6y ago

That doesn't seem to relate to what I said. Obama making decisions on his own doesn't have anything to do with middle east nation's interest in US approval for their own actions.

hn8788 6y ago
Killing people in other countries because their government isn't doing enough to fight extremism doesn't sound like they've been "left to their own devices".
- duxup 6y ago
  "left to their own devices" doesn't mean that the US (or anyone else) would be uninvolved in things. I'm addressing what those middle east nations choose to do and who they consult with, get 'approval' from / etc.
  - Grustaf 6y ago
    > "left to their own devices" doesn't mean that the US (or anyone else) would be uninvolved in things. What? That's exactly what it means.

Shivetya 6y ago

and less than a hundred days into his Presidency Biden is bombing the Middle East; a guy who claimed he would use military power responsibly and his supporters mocked Trump supporters that claimed otherwise. The simple fact is we have very little justification to criticize the actions of other nations when we cannot even go an Administration without attacking another nation.

Chris2048 6y ago
1) what makes the bombing a non-responsible use of military power? 2) Why is the US not allowed to "attack[] another nation"? esp given it was a response to attacks on American/coalition personnel?