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"US President Joe Biden is expected to take a firmer line than his predecessor Donald Trump on human rights and the rule of law in Saudi Arabia, a key American

"US President Joe Biden is expected to take a firmer line than his predecessor Donald Trump on human rights and the rule of law in Saudi Arabia, a key American ally in the Middle East." What does this even mean? I highly doubt the arms deal will get canceled. That was arranged under Obama and Biden.

joshstrange 6y ago
Well it means actually acknowledging what happened vs the Trump admin staying quiet on it. As for the arms deal, the most recent arms deal was brokered by the Trump admin [0]. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-administration-saudi-weapons-deal/2020/12/23/657cdc72-4565-11eb-8deb-b948d0931c16_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-admin...
- leesalminen 6y ago
  > Well it means actually acknowledging what happened If nothing material happens after acknowledging something bad happened, does it matter in any way? The net result is the same.
  - joshstrange 6y ago
    For me? Yes it absolutely matters. While I would prefer action being taken, saying the truth out loud is important and something sorely missing in politics in general.
- jessaustin 6y ago
  Wake us up when Biden admin cancels that deal...
mc32 6y ago
Posturing. Tsk, tsk. Regimes do bad things. They just don’t usually do it in the open like this case or North Korea (foreign airport). Unless it’s a small banana republic that bends at the will of international pressure, not much will happen. Right after they do something material about this I’m certain they will do something about the things China does. Maybe they’ll do something about Venezuela too, right?
- yalogin 6y ago
  Well, regimes do bad things but the US should not be supporting and strategizing for these regimes when they do bad things right? So posturing is the least we can do and getting back to that point is still a good thing.
- jessaustin 6y ago
  Do something about the ruinous sanctions that Venezuela and its democratically-elected somewhat-socialist government have suffered for decades? Yeah, I'm sure five-decades-in-public-office Joe will get right on that.
  - mc32 6y ago
    If Maduro is democratically elected then I guess so is Putin and Raul and mr Kim and mr Xi, etc. I’m sure we’ll just ignore the hundreds of government executed political prisoners in Venezuela and other places. Why not, it’s not even ever mentioned by the media. Biden will lift the ruinous Venezuelan sanctions right after he lifts the ones on Russia I’m certain. Give him time.
dqpb 6y ago
Fingers will be strongly wagged, that's for damn sure. /s

joshstrange 6y ago

Well it means actually acknowledging what happened vs the Trump admin staying quiet on it. As for the arms deal, the most recent arms deal was brokered by the Trump admin [0]. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-administration-saudi-weapons-deal/2020/12/23/657cdc72-4565-11eb-8deb-b948d0931c16_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-admin...

leesalminen 6y ago
> Well it means actually acknowledging what happened If nothing material happens after acknowledging something bad happened, does it matter in any way? The net result is the same.
- joshstrange 6y ago
  For me? Yes it absolutely matters. While I would prefer action being taken, saying the truth out loud is important and something sorely missing in politics in general.
jessaustin 6y ago
Wake us up when Biden admin cancels that deal...

mc32 6y ago

Posturing. Tsk, tsk. Regimes do bad things. They just don’t usually do it in the open like this case or North Korea (foreign airport). Unless it’s a small banana republic that bends at the will of international pressure, not much will happen. Right after they do something material about this I’m certain they will do something about the things China does. Maybe they’ll do something about Venezuela too, right?

yalogin 6y ago
Well, regimes do bad things but the US should not be supporting and strategizing for these regimes when they do bad things right? So posturing is the least we can do and getting back to that point is still a good thing.
jessaustin 6y ago
Do something about the ruinous sanctions that Venezuela and its democratically-elected somewhat-socialist government have suffered for decades? Yeah, I'm sure five-decades-in-public-office Joe will get right on that.
- mc32 6y ago
  If Maduro is democratically elected then I guess so is Putin and Raul and mr Kim and mr Xi, etc. I’m sure we’ll just ignore the hundreds of government executed political prisoners in Venezuela and other places. Why not, it’s not even ever mentioned by the media. Biden will lift the ruinous Venezuelan sanctions right after he lifts the ones on Russia I’m certain. Give him time.

dqpb 6y ago

Fingers will be strongly wagged, that's for damn sure. /s