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The template debugging looks awesome. I wonder if there is a project that provides django template debugging as a stand alone thing? I don't see myself ever m

The template debugging looks awesome. I wonder if there is a project that provides django template debugging as a stand alone thing? I don't see myself ever moving from vim to Jetbrains.

bokchoi 15y ago
As a former vim user myself, if you do use IntelliJ or PyCharm I can recommend using the IdeaVIM plugin: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164 http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164
- rufugee 15y ago
  O rly? Have you actually used it? I tried for months while using RubyMine. The IdeaVIM plugin was one of the reasons I was ultimately driven back to regular vim...the inconsistencies and bugs were pretty bad...to the extent that some things like undo would lose your changes completely (i.e., no redo). I really wanted to like RubyMine/IntelliJ/IdeaVIM, but the bugs were a deal killer. Coupled with the fact that many were known issues and there was no commitment to fix them and my choice to go back to vim was easy. I should note that the vim support in netbeans and eclipse was just about flawless. It's a shame IntelliJ couldn't steal/adapt one of those projects to work within its IDE set.
  - bokchoi 15y ago
    Yes, rly. Of course I have actually used it -- I use it daily. I wouldn't recommend it otherwise. I find the small bugs in IdeaVIM well worth the added bonus of using IntelliJ over using vim alone or using netbeans or eclipse. I fiddled with eclim and jbvi and other vim-ish things, but IntelliJ really is the best Java IDE IMHO.
    - rufugee 15y ago
      So do U and CTRL+R now properly undo and redo? When I used it, if you used U to undo, there was simply no way to ever redo anything...
      - dogonwheels 15y ago
        What platform are you on? My windows install seems to be prone to odd keyboard collisions, but mac is fine.
rikthevik 15y ago
I am with you, vim is pretty awesome. But having used IntelliJ for Java, I'm very excited to see what JetBrains can do with a Python IDE. IntelliJ really is a fantastic tool.
chaselee 15y ago
I use nano a lot, but I've been trying out PyCharm for a few weeks now, and so far I've been impressed. What's nice is that it really feels like it was built specifically for Python/Django as opposed to going with some other IDEs that shotgun their support. That being said I love customizing something simple like vim/nano into a great language/framework-specific IDE as well.

The template debugging looks awesome. I wonder if there is a project that provides django template debugging as a stand alone thing? I don't see myself ever moving from vim to Jetbrains.

bokchoi 15y ago

As a former vim user myself, if you do use IntelliJ or PyCharm I can recommend using the IdeaVIM plugin: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164 http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164

rufugee 15y ago
O rly? Have you actually used it? I tried for months while using RubyMine. The IdeaVIM plugin was one of the reasons I was ultimately driven back to regular vim...the inconsistencies and bugs were pretty bad...to the extent that some things like undo would lose your changes completely (i.e., no redo). I really wanted to like RubyMine/IntelliJ/IdeaVIM, but the bugs were a deal killer. Coupled with the fact that many were known issues and there was no commitment to fix them and my choice to go back to vim was easy. I should note that the vim support in netbeans and eclipse was just about flawless. It's a shame IntelliJ couldn't steal/adapt one of those projects to work within its IDE set.
- bokchoi 15y ago
  Yes, rly. Of course I have actually used it -- I use it daily. I wouldn't recommend it otherwise. I find the small bugs in IdeaVIM well worth the added bonus of using IntelliJ over using vim alone or using netbeans or eclipse. I fiddled with eclim and jbvi and other vim-ish things, but IntelliJ really is the best Java IDE IMHO.
  - rufugee 15y ago
    So do U and CTRL+R now properly undo and redo? When I used it, if you used U to undo, there was simply no way to ever redo anything...
    - dogonwheels 15y ago
      What platform are you on? My windows install seems to be prone to odd keyboard collisions, but mac is fine.

rikthevik 15y ago

I am with you, vim is pretty awesome. But having used IntelliJ for Java, I'm very excited to see what JetBrains can do with a Python IDE. IntelliJ really is a fantastic tool.

chaselee 15y ago

I use nano a lot, but I've been trying out PyCharm for a few weeks now, and so far I've been impressed. What's nice is that it really feels like it was built specifically for Python/Django as opposed to going with some other IDEs that shotgun their support. That being said I love customizing something simple like vim/nano into a great language/framework-specific IDE as well.