> There are ZERO cases where a desktop program was made better by using anything from the mobile world. ZERO. Fully agree with the sentiment, but I think I'm a

> There are ZERO cases where a desktop program was made better by using anything from the mobile world. ZERO. Fully agree with the sentiment, but I think I'm actually a little on the fence or maybe even in disagreement w.r.t. VLC specifically. I don't know how most people use the VLC UI, but personally I spend most of the time in the OS file manager and largely what I see of VLC is the player view (usually fullscreened so not even that). If I am navigating the UI / playlists / etc. it's largely after plugging my laptop into a projector or other casting setup and am looking at VLC on a distant large screen; this is not quite a "mobile UI", but it's similar. I know VLC has a separate, different UI for Android TV, but I don't run Android TV, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If I am ever using the full VLC UI directly on my computer screen in a traditional way, I'm in the menu bar submenus or in a dedicated settings panel: these haven't really changed in 4.0, so no big deal there. One could argue, given my use-cases above, that a change to the UI is not necessary (if I use it fully so infrequently), but I still think a larger-click-target-focused change is going to be positive for infrequent use in odd places where you might be playing video media. In contrast, the only way I see the 4.0 UI being a negative user-experience is for users who spend a lot of time "working" in the main VLC UI without watching video. Even if you only use VLC for playing audio, surely you're not spending a lot of time browsing the library? --- All the above said, keeping the File menu would be better. I mostly use macOS, and a bit of Linux, so I suspect this will be less of a problem for me in practice.