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> Apple says in the coming weeks, it will update its iOS software for iPhones to require apps to get explicit consent to track what people are doing on their ph
by pyrophane 6y ago
> Apple says in the coming weeks, it will update its iOS software for iPhones to require apps to get explicit consent to track what people are doing on their phones for the purposes of sharing it with third-parties.
That's all they are doing. They aren't preventing companies from tracking users in this way. They are just requiring them to get permission.
Says a lot about Facebook's business model that this is a cause for "all-out war," and that they'd rather try to stop the feature than convince their users to enable it. I guess they know that at the end of they day if they can't do this behind their users' backs, they probably aren't going to be able to do it at all.
- bob33212 6y agoWhat is to stop Facebook from making a picture show up all fuzzy and then tell the user that they should opt-in to tracking to get the highest resolution pictures.
- fairity 6y agoApple's TOS surrounding this change prevent any sort of content-gating of this sort. Infractions may result in removal from the app store.
- nerbert 6y agoI'd be curious to see whether apple has the balls to remove fb from the app store
- runako 6y agoObviously not as big, but they kicked Fortnite out of the App Store. So there is precedent for them holding the line.
- unionpivo 6y agoHonestly If apple can't afford to stand up to FB who can ? I dislike Apples closed ecosystem (anf google trying to do the same), but if it can weaken FB's grip on people, it might bring some benefit even to non apple customers.
- omk 6y agoI appreciate this kind of a view. You may disagree with a few policies of a company and remain in favor of some. Works for people, brands, governments equally.
- virgil_disgr4ce 6y agoWell, once they launch Applebook, they won't need fb anymore
- juuular 6y agoThe world would be a better place if they did.
- bluthru 6y agoProbably not. The YouTube app restricts Picture in Picture (a standard OS feature) behind a paywall.
- wyattpeak 6y agoI don't know how it was received (if at all) in the rest of the world, but in Australia at least Facebook is still reeling from their news ban, I suspect the populace would support Apple for a few days, and that's realistically as long as the ban would last if implemented.
- dallamaneni 6y agoThey may not remove FB but they may just stop accepting updates if Facebook does not comply
- Karunamon 6y agoWithout a doubt. They nuked Fortnite from orbit, and had to be stopped by a judge from nuking Epic's developer cert, which would have killed any app using the unreal engine.
- jackson1442 6y agoThey definitely do, Apple has revoked their developer certificate before[1], and this is really the next logical step if Facebook keeps fucking around https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-hits-back-facebook-revokes-152521097.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-hits-back-facebook-revo...
- mikestew 6y agoApple pulled FB's enterprise cert a while back, basically pulling FB's internal apps offline. I don't think it's a huge leap to pulling the app from the App Store if it comes down to it. In fact, I'd argue that pulling the cert was a shot across FB's bow: "oh, you think we don't have the balls, do you? Anything else you think we don't have the testicular fortitude for?" https://blog.malwarebytes.com/security-world/2019/01/apple-pulls-facebook-enterprise-certificate/ https://blog.malwarebytes.com/security-world/2019/01/apple-p...
- gpm 6y agoApart from Apple's tos... That sounds like it would be a pretty explicit, in your face, and eat to prosecute gdpr violation in Europe.
- ogre_codes 6y agoFacebook isn't concerned with what happens within the Facebook App itself. Everything there is already tracked and filtered. What they are most concerned about is that a huge pile of outside apps which are feeding them data by including their APIs will opt out of including Facebook's APIs because the indie apps don't want to display this warning.
- hef19898 6y agoHonest question here, as this story almost got me to buy an iPhone. And really don't like them, just a personal taste thing. If I don't install apps, say facebook, it can't collect this data right? So by being careful of what I install, and staying clear of facebook, which I am already, using an Android should have a similar effect, right? Or am I getting this wrong?
- fairity 6y agoNot entirely, Facebook collects a lot of information about you when you're browsing third-party sites. This tracking is done through the Facebook Pixel, which is loaded via javascript on ~15% of sites you visit.