Hmm I feel we're getting circular. There are discussions on: 1. Is a particular connector still used/useful on laptops - my statement is that RJ45 is absolute

Hmm I feel we're getting circular. There are discussions on: 1. Is a particular connector still used/useful on laptops - my statement is that RJ45 is absolutely still used on laptops, and went into some examples / use-cases. 2. Separate discussion, hopefully informed by the first, is how do we do that - built into laptop or via a bunch of dongles. Apple in particular removing it from their laptops does not speak one way or another to corporate/professional environment requirements. Their approach is "use a dongle/dock" which in their view is compatible with whatever use case is needed (and some people disagree, which is fine - lots of vendors and in particular HP/Dell/Thinkpad all have robust professional/corporate/roadwarrior models with dock, port and even pointing stick capability).