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First, many people log into non-Google services using their Google account. If you can't log into it from a third party browser, you'd have to keep using Chrome

by est31 6y ago

First, many people log into non-Google services using their Google account. If you can't log into it from a third party browser, you'd have to keep using Chrome even if you didn't want to. Also there is speculation that with browsers blocking third party cookies, Google might eventually perform ad tracking via the browser, via your Google account. Websites that live from ads like news websites will notice this and block users who are not logged into Google, as they don't add revenue. So eventually it might be possible that large parts of the web become inaccessible to you.

fctorial 6y ago
> If you can't log into it from a third party browser, you'd have to keep using Chrome even if you didn't want to. Oauth is browser agnostic, right?
- est31 6y ago
  Yes but Google blocks browsers that don't belong to the group of "large" ones for "security" reasons: https://developers.googleblog.com/2020/08/guidance-for-our-effort-to-block-less-secure-browser-and-apps.html https://developers.googleblog.com/2020/08/guidance-for-our-e... https://security.googleblog.com/2019/04/better-protection-against-man-in-middle.html https://security.googleblog.com/2019/04/better-protection-ag...
  - nickster 6y ago
    If you're creating your own browser you are not going to start with CEF. You're going to take the Chromium source code and build from there.
tharkun__ 6y ago
I personally don't use Chrome or a Chromium based browser and I have zero problems logging into other non-Google services using my Google account. The fact that my browser of choice doesn't "know" about it (natively) and doesn't display this in its own UI is of no consequence (except the positive ones of why the eff would my browser even _need_ to?)
pjc50 6y ago
> many people log into non-Google services using their Google account Is that actually affected by this change? i.e. have they prevented you logging into Google at all from this browser?
- dylkil 6y ago
  no
ChefboyOG 6y ago
Blocking non-Google users would be nonsensical. News sites currently have tons of non-revenue adding users. The problem they're trying to solve isn't "How do we block these people?"—it's how do we monetize them. This is why the real shift you're seeing in media right now is back towards subscriber models. Ads are still providing the lion's share of revenue, but as someone whose worked with many media companies, I can tell you that nearly everyone is obsessed with growing their paying subscriber base.

by est31 6y ago

fctorial 6y ago

> If you can't log into it from a third party browser, you'd have to keep using Chrome even if you didn't want to. Oauth is browser agnostic, right?

est31 6y ago
Yes but Google blocks browsers that don't belong to the group of "large" ones for "security" reasons: https://developers.googleblog.com/2020/08/guidance-for-our-effort-to-block-less-secure-browser-and-apps.html https://developers.googleblog.com/2020/08/guidance-for-our-e... https://security.googleblog.com/2019/04/better-protection-against-man-in-middle.html https://security.googleblog.com/2019/04/better-protection-ag...
- nickster 6y ago
  If you're creating your own browser you are not going to start with CEF. You're going to take the Chromium source code and build from there.

tharkun__ 6y ago

I personally don't use Chrome or a Chromium based browser and I have zero problems logging into other non-Google services using my Google account. The fact that my browser of choice doesn't "know" about it (natively) and doesn't display this in its own UI is of no consequence (except the positive ones of why the eff would my browser even _need_ to?)

pjc50 6y ago

> many people log into non-Google services using their Google account Is that actually affected by this change? i.e. have they prevented you logging into Google at all from this browser?

dylkil 6y ago
no

ChefboyOG 6y ago

Blocking non-Google users would be nonsensical. News sites currently have tons of non-revenue adding users. The problem they're trying to solve isn't "How do we block these people?"—it's how do we monetize them. This is why the real shift you're seeing in media right now is back towards subscriber models. Ads are still providing the lion's share of revenue, but as someone whose worked with many media companies, I can tell you that nearly everyone is obsessed with growing their paying subscriber base.