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I wonder if it's an age thing. I'm 20, I have quite little fear and I think most of my peers feel the same way. I'm planning to buy a Tesla the second they let

I wonder if it's an age thing. I'm 20, I have quite little fear and I think most of my peers feel the same way. I'm planning to buy a Tesla the second they let me buy one with bitcoin and I 100% plan to daily drive autopilot on city streets when it's ready, I really can't picture any of my friends being like wtf turn that shit off. Edit: Disregard, I thought it was self driving related not full robotaxi that shit is spooky. I'd do it but I'd let other ppl do it for a few months first.

Johnny555 6y ago
Being behind the wheel of a car with "autopilot" is not quite the same as being stuck in the back seat of a self-driving car where you have no control over it at all. I'd gladly drive a Tesla with autopilot, but wouldn't want to let it drive me while I lounge in the back seat.
christogreeff 6y ago
Experience. Indirectly linked to age. When you have been driving for a number of years and have experienced how quickly and unexpectedly things can happen while driving, it's hard to completely put your life in the hands of an automated system.
- piracy1 6y ago
  I think it's more fundamental. I trust a computer more to react quickly to something unexpected than I trust myself to. Maybe I'm biased because I spend all day programming and poking at computers and almost none of it driving.
  - fy20 6y ago
    I'm in my early 30s, and yes I also trust a computer to react better than me in the situations it has been trained for. The problem is for situations outside of the the normal, which based on my experience I'd say is what causes most fatalities in road traffic accidents. The fact that these are closed systems doesn't inspire confidence either - I wonder whether regulations will change this later, to require third parties to evaluate the system. If I were to buy a new car today, I'd for sure look for one that has some of the modern safety features like lane keeping and automatic emergency braking. Dynamic cruise control would be great for long journeys. But I wouldn't feel safe riding in a car with what Tesla calls 'autopilot' capabilities, or more complete self-driving like Waymo - although to be fair in a city due to lower speeds the risk of injury (to myself) is going to less than on a highway, so I'd actually say I'd feel safer in Waymo than a Tesla.
    - christogreeff 6y ago
      Dynamic/adaptive cruise control is a really nice safety feature which I use whenever I can. I guess the 'autopilot' capabilities is just another form of that, but I'd still be hesitant to be hands off and read a book.
KorematsuFred 6y ago
>daily drive autopilot on city streets when it's ready Please note that it is not real autopilot and be safe. I can understand not being scared of automatic vehicles but Tesla isnt self driving yet.
- piracy1 6y ago
  Yeah, I do think it's vaporware forever or at least a few years, but who knows.
onion2k 6y ago
I'm planning to buy a Tesla the second they let me buy one with bitcoin You can buy one with BTC today. You just have to use an intermediary to turn the BTC in to USD. Why would you wait until you can send BTC directly?
- piracy1 6y ago
  I want to support businesses accepting BTC directly. Also, it's a good meme, buying a self driving car with magic internet money, it being a meme like that and sorta being a piece of the bit of history I care about is the only reason I feel like spending 50k+ on a car. I have an old ass car it works fine.
chrismcb 6y ago
What do you mean by "when it is ready" it sounds to me like you aren't ready to drive in a self driving car, and are part of that 86% I'm actually surprised that 14% think the auto cars are ready
- piracy1 6y ago
  > It's a feature that is not available, if u try to turn on self driving in city streets it tells u no.
Bancakes 6y ago
It's a question of trust. Tesla's software is proprietary and we don't know how well verified, either. Plus, it's AI driven. I regularly fill captchas wrong but I'd never get in a car that's had its training griefed.

Johnny555 6y ago

Being behind the wheel of a car with "autopilot" is not quite the same as being stuck in the back seat of a self-driving car where you have no control over it at all. I'd gladly drive a Tesla with autopilot, but wouldn't want to let it drive me while I lounge in the back seat.

christogreeff 6y ago

Experience. Indirectly linked to age. When you have been driving for a number of years and have experienced how quickly and unexpectedly things can happen while driving, it's hard to completely put your life in the hands of an automated system.

piracy1 6y ago
I think it's more fundamental. I trust a computer more to react quickly to something unexpected than I trust myself to. Maybe I'm biased because I spend all day programming and poking at computers and almost none of it driving.
- fy20 6y ago
  I'm in my early 30s, and yes I also trust a computer to react better than me in the situations it has been trained for. The problem is for situations outside of the the normal, which based on my experience I'd say is what causes most fatalities in road traffic accidents. The fact that these are closed systems doesn't inspire confidence either - I wonder whether regulations will change this later, to require third parties to evaluate the system. If I were to buy a new car today, I'd for sure look for one that has some of the modern safety features like lane keeping and automatic emergency braking. Dynamic cruise control would be great for long journeys. But I wouldn't feel safe riding in a car with what Tesla calls 'autopilot' capabilities, or more complete self-driving like Waymo - although to be fair in a city due to lower speeds the risk of injury (to myself) is going to less than on a highway, so I'd actually say I'd feel safer in Waymo than a Tesla.
  - christogreeff 6y ago
    Dynamic/adaptive cruise control is a really nice safety feature which I use whenever I can. I guess the 'autopilot' capabilities is just another form of that, but I'd still be hesitant to be hands off and read a book.

KorematsuFred 6y ago

>daily drive autopilot on city streets when it's ready Please note that it is not real autopilot and be safe. I can understand not being scared of automatic vehicles but Tesla isnt self driving yet.

piracy1 6y ago
Yeah, I do think it's vaporware forever or at least a few years, but who knows.

onion2k 6y ago

I'm planning to buy a Tesla the second they let me buy one with bitcoin You can buy one with BTC today. You just have to use an intermediary to turn the BTC in to USD. Why would you wait until you can send BTC directly?

piracy1 6y ago
I want to support businesses accepting BTC directly. Also, it's a good meme, buying a self driving car with magic internet money, it being a meme like that and sorta being a piece of the bit of history I care about is the only reason I feel like spending 50k+ on a car. I have an old ass car it works fine.

chrismcb 6y ago

What do you mean by "when it is ready" it sounds to me like you aren't ready to drive in a self driving car, and are part of that 86% I'm actually surprised that 14% think the auto cars are ready

piracy1 6y ago
> It's a feature that is not available, if u try to turn on self driving in city streets it tells u no.

Bancakes 6y ago

It's a question of trust. Tesla's software is proprietary and we don't know how well verified, either. Plus, it's AI driven. I regularly fill captchas wrong but I'd never get in a car that's had its training griefed.