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Not that I agree with the practice but the people pro death are also pro retribution; to them the suffering is a feature :/

generalizations 6y ago
If you want to make that generalization, you should have some good sources to back it up. Do you have some stats saying that e.g. 99% of pro-death-penalty people want the accused to "suffer"? Otherwise you're just throwing shade on people you disagree with, and that doesn't make you look good.
- bloqs 6y ago
  I would say this is one of those very rare examples where sufficient social activity suffices where a study is absent. I have not met a single human being who believes in execution but only humanely. I have met in excess of 50 people who simply conflate suffering and death and simplify the justification
  - generalizations 6y ago
    You're relying on anecdotes, and the reliability of anecdotes isn't increased just because the subject matter is harder to get good information on. > I have not met a single human being who believes in execution but only humanely. I have met in excess of 50 people who simply conflate suffering and death and simplify the justification The very best this statement can say is that inside your bubble, this is how your memory represents the aggregate opinions you've encountered w.r.t. the death penalty.
  - crowf 6y ago
    Hey, nice to meet you. I believe there are crimes where a death penalty is warranted, but only humanely. AMA?
    - codezero 6y ago
      I also believe that there are crimes where a death penalty is warranted, but I also do not believe it should be executed because I do not believe any organized entity exists that could follow through on those penalties without being provably uncorrupt or infallible, and therefor it should not be considered an option in any civilized community.
- codezero 6y ago
  Death is by definition suffering. By that, I mean the removal of free will and free thought is suffering. Prison removes free will, and death removes free thought.
- mellosouls 6y ago
  I saw a documentary on the subject where that was acknowledged in this particular case, the suffering being an important factor. I can't remember the documentary title, but the example was given of humane, even pleasurable, similar method to use instead of injection etc and it was dismissed angrily by pro campaigners for those honest and believable reasons. That's not to say it's a majority opinion - so I agree with your objection to that generalisation, but it's definitely a reaction of some who are pro-death penalty.
  - generalizations 6y ago
    Yeah, I'm not saying there aren't some people who think that way. I'm specifically taking issue with the generalization. It seems fairly common these days to throw shade on people we disagree with, and it bothers me.

generalizations 6y ago

If you want to make that generalization, you should have some good sources to back it up. Do you have some stats saying that e.g. 99% of pro-death-penalty people want the accused to "suffer"? Otherwise you're just throwing shade on people you disagree with, and that doesn't make you look good.

bloqs 6y ago
I would say this is one of those very rare examples where sufficient social activity suffices where a study is absent. I have not met a single human being who believes in execution but only humanely. I have met in excess of 50 people who simply conflate suffering and death and simplify the justification
- generalizations 6y ago
  You're relying on anecdotes, and the reliability of anecdotes isn't increased just because the subject matter is harder to get good information on. > I have not met a single human being who believes in execution but only humanely. I have met in excess of 50 people who simply conflate suffering and death and simplify the justification The very best this statement can say is that inside your bubble, this is how your memory represents the aggregate opinions you've encountered w.r.t. the death penalty.
- crowf 6y ago
  Hey, nice to meet you. I believe there are crimes where a death penalty is warranted, but only humanely. AMA?
  - codezero 6y ago
    I also believe that there are crimes where a death penalty is warranted, but I also do not believe it should be executed because I do not believe any organized entity exists that could follow through on those penalties without being provably uncorrupt or infallible, and therefor it should not be considered an option in any civilized community.
codezero 6y ago
Death is by definition suffering. By that, I mean the removal of free will and free thought is suffering. Prison removes free will, and death removes free thought.
mellosouls 6y ago
I saw a documentary on the subject where that was acknowledged in this particular case, the suffering being an important factor. I can't remember the documentary title, but the example was given of humane, even pleasurable, similar method to use instead of injection etc and it was dismissed angrily by pro campaigners for those honest and believable reasons. That's not to say it's a majority opinion - so I agree with your objection to that generalisation, but it's definitely a reaction of some who are pro-death penalty.
- generalizations 6y ago
  Yeah, I'm not saying there aren't some people who think that way. I'm specifically taking issue with the generalization. It seems fairly common these days to throw shade on people we disagree with, and it bothers me.