> "They're just perfectly fine machines for what they cost." Sure, but I don't care about the 'crap' segment of laptops. I want more options at the Macbook pri

> "They're just perfectly fine machines for what they cost." Sure, but I don't care about the 'crap' segment of laptops. I want more options at the Macbook price point. People often talk about System76 as if they are Mac competitors too, so I don't entirely buy your point. > "High end machines that compete with mac laptops already exist" And they mostly suck. There isn't a good option that's a clear stand out Macbook competitor. There is no Windows/Linux hardware that's easy to point at and say this is clearly the one to get. All the competitors are a mixture of bad tradeoffs. Why? I would think Microsoft would want to make a Surface laptop that's competitive in this space (that targets developers), but they haven't really.