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Any chance of one that doesn't look like a Macbook clone? I, personally, am tired of the brushed aluminum with black bezels and keyboard look. The materials ca

by Alupis 6y ago

Any chance of one that doesn't look like a Macbook clone? I, personally, am tired of the brushed aluminum with black bezels and keyboard look. The materials can remain the same, but some colored options would be wonderful - like the HP Spectre x360's with blue and black options, etc. Everything else looks wonderful, particularly the mobo upgrades for newer CPU/GPU combinations... and even better - getting to choose the ports I need! Love that!

AceJohnny2 6y ago
Thanks to Apple, there's probably a solid "aluminium case" manufacturing pipeline that Framework might be able to leverage. That's a wild guess though, I can imagine Apple keeping that tightly under their thumbs. Extra colors add cost. You have to plan for which colors might be popular, and which won't, in which case you'd have to sell at a discount to get rid of inventory. I'd be surprised if Framework offered that out of the gate.
- Judgmentality 6y ago
  > Thanks to Apple, there's probably a solid "aluminium case" manufacturing pipeline that Framework might be able to leverage. Apple literally has buildings filled with thousands of CNC machines milling aluminum laptop cases. Apple does not manufacture things the same way as the rest of the industry, as they have the money and the scale to do whatever the fuck they want. https://beneinstein.medium.com/no-you-cant-manufacture-that-like-apple-does-93bea02a3bbf https://beneinstein.medium.com/no-you-cant-manufacture-that-...
  - Waterluvian 6y ago
    And it shows. I've never had an aluminum laptop feel like a macbook chassis. There's just something about the thickness? Rigidity?
    - airbreather 6y ago
      I have Xaiomi mac like clone that was less than half the price for same specs and the body is totally ridged aluminum.
hedora 6y ago
I’ll take one in all black, with a matte display; will definitely pay extra for oled with insanely good black levels. :-)
reaperducer 6y ago
Any chance of one that doesn't look like a Macbook clone? If it came in certain tasteful colors, that would get my wife to switch from Apple to Linux. (She works in the fashion industry.)
pbronez 6y ago
The website says the main bezel is magnetic, and can be replaced with various colors. Probably have to wait for future revisions before they do crazier designs... cloning Apple is a way to message the quality / price point they’re shooting for.
sudosteph 6y ago
+1 to this, except I would like a plastic alternative to the aluminum in the case as well. While it's commendable that framework is picking those materials to environmentally conscious - I have had such terrible past experiences with "aluminum" body laptops triggering eczema outbreaks[1] - that I avoid metal cases as a rule now. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291384767_Allergy_risks_with_laptop_computers_-_nickel_and_cobalt_release https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291384767_Allergy_r... TLDR: many metallic cases have nickel or cobalt present, and it releases when you sweat. Sometimes this triggers contact dermatitis (eczema) if you're sensitized to it.
- pedalpete 6y ago
  Wouldn't a case or skin be a better solution to this than a plastic housing?
  - sudosteph 6y ago
    I always worry about ventilation with cases, though that may unwarranted depending on the particular case / skin. I was cheap (and not sure if the laptop was my root issue at the time), so I ended up putting duct tape over the area my wrists touched, and that helped a lot. It looked pretty silly though. That said, when I had the option to get a laptop where I wouldn't have to think about it at all (plastic cased thinkpad), I jumped for it. Maybe I've just developed a deep-seated, emotional resentment for metal bodied laptops in general after spending so long dealing with itchy/oozy hands, wrists and forearms. Also all the doctors who just prescribed steroid creams and blamed stress...
    - pedalpete 6y ago
      Yeah, I get it. I think plastic cases are going to be a tough sell for a company looking to be environmentally friendly. :) You're also not in the majority, but as I stated, I'd prefer a non-metal looking laptop. I've got a Razer Blade Stealth 13 which I had to put a skin on because it's a fingerprint magnet. Skins really aren't that bad, and they're designed to not block the vents.

by Alupis 6y ago

AceJohnny2 6y ago

Thanks to Apple, there's probably a solid "aluminium case" manufacturing pipeline that Framework might be able to leverage. That's a wild guess though, I can imagine Apple keeping that tightly under their thumbs. Extra colors add cost. You have to plan for which colors might be popular, and which won't, in which case you'd have to sell at a discount to get rid of inventory. I'd be surprised if Framework offered that out of the gate.

Judgmentality 6y ago
> Thanks to Apple, there's probably a solid "aluminium case" manufacturing pipeline that Framework might be able to leverage. Apple literally has buildings filled with thousands of CNC machines milling aluminum laptop cases. Apple does not manufacture things the same way as the rest of the industry, as they have the money and the scale to do whatever the fuck they want. https://beneinstein.medium.com/no-you-cant-manufacture-that-like-apple-does-93bea02a3bbf https://beneinstein.medium.com/no-you-cant-manufacture-that-...
- Waterluvian 6y ago
  And it shows. I've never had an aluminum laptop feel like a macbook chassis. There's just something about the thickness? Rigidity?
  - airbreather 6y ago
    I have Xaiomi mac like clone that was less than half the price for same specs and the body is totally ridged aluminum.

hedora 6y ago

I’ll take one in all black, with a matte display; will definitely pay extra for oled with insanely good black levels. :-)

reaperducer 6y ago

Any chance of one that doesn't look like a Macbook clone? If it came in certain tasteful colors, that would get my wife to switch from Apple to Linux. (She works in the fashion industry.)

pbronez 6y ago

The website says the main bezel is magnetic, and can be replaced with various colors. Probably have to wait for future revisions before they do crazier designs... cloning Apple is a way to message the quality / price point they’re shooting for.

sudosteph 6y ago

+1 to this, except I would like a plastic alternative to the aluminum in the case as well. While it's commendable that framework is picking those materials to environmentally conscious - I have had such terrible past experiences with "aluminum" body laptops triggering eczema outbreaks[1] - that I avoid metal cases as a rule now. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291384767_Allergy_risks_with_laptop_computers_-_nickel_and_cobalt_release https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291384767_Allergy_r... TLDR: many metallic cases have nickel or cobalt present, and it releases when you sweat. Sometimes this triggers contact dermatitis (eczema) if you're sensitized to it.

pedalpete 6y ago
Wouldn't a case or skin be a better solution to this than a plastic housing?
- sudosteph 6y ago
  I always worry about ventilation with cases, though that may unwarranted depending on the particular case / skin. I was cheap (and not sure if the laptop was my root issue at the time), so I ended up putting duct tape over the area my wrists touched, and that helped a lot. It looked pretty silly though. That said, when I had the option to get a laptop where I wouldn't have to think about it at all (plastic cased thinkpad), I jumped for it. Maybe I've just developed a deep-seated, emotional resentment for metal bodied laptops in general after spending so long dealing with itchy/oozy hands, wrists and forearms. Also all the doctors who just prescribed steroid creams and blamed stress...
  - pedalpete 6y ago
    Yeah, I get it. I think plastic cases are going to be a tough sell for a company looking to be environmentally friendly. :) You're also not in the majority, but as I stated, I'd prefer a non-metal looking laptop. I've got a Razer Blade Stealth 13 which I had to put a skin on because it's a fingerprint magnet. Skins really aren't that bad, and they're designed to not block the vents.