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For general working, trackpad is better. You can type and move the mouse without moving your hands.

by meetups323 6y ago

dublinben 6y ago
Did you mean a trackpoint? How can you type and move the mouse without moving your hands with a trackpad?
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  Not sure what you're confused about - your hand can hover over the keyboard and trackpad at the same time - they're right next to each other. I don't need to move my hands to go from one to another?
- losvedir 6y ago
  Use your thumbs. The track pad is right below the space bar. Or, it's close enough that with hovering hands you can move back and forth between keys without looking. It's much faster to navigate a code base that way, I think, than trying to jump in vim lines at a time. A smooth, continuous scroll at easily controllable, different speeds does wonders for keeping continuity of a file in mind.
  - boogies 6y ago
    > easily controllable, different speeds This is why I like having not just ^f/b full page, {}() paragraph and sentence, and of course j/k line scrolling but also ^u/d half-page scrolling so much that I mapped them it U and D in Zathura and Pentadactyl just for the centimeter of finger movement that saves.
    - meetups323 6y ago
      The funny thing is (){} are much further from where your fingers are at home than the track pad is from your thumbs on space.
      - boogies 6y ago
        {} are approximately as far but they’re in the same direction that your fingers naturally point. () are farther but as words in the languages of vi and vim they're a powerful operator that have no mouse equivalent (unlike w[ords] and {} paragraphs/lines which have double-click and triple-click). Editing the middle of a sentence, then deciding to move it to a footnote is IMO easier with `<Esc>di(}p` or `<Esc>di(Gp`¹ than with `bend thumb/wrist backwards / arm up and to the right, drag thumb to end of sentence, double-click drag to select one word at a time to the other end, release and drag sentence down precise number of lines to next paragraph or all the way to the end of the document (or how I would move the selection, Backspace, PageDown to the end, Shift+Insert)" ¹Let me test that. I like digraphs a heck of a lot more than scrolling through a symbol list btw. This was also a nice use for marks.

For general working, trackpad is better. You can type and move the mouse without moving your hands.

dublinben 6y ago

Did you mean a trackpoint? How can you type and move the mouse without moving your hands with a trackpad?

chrisseaton 6y ago
Not sure what you're confused about - your hand can hover over the keyboard and trackpad at the same time - they're right next to each other. I don't need to move my hands to go from one to another?
losvedir 6y ago
Use your thumbs. The track pad is right below the space bar. Or, it's close enough that with hovering hands you can move back and forth between keys without looking. It's much faster to navigate a code base that way, I think, than trying to jump in vim lines at a time. A smooth, continuous scroll at easily controllable, different speeds does wonders for keeping continuity of a file in mind.
- boogies 6y ago
  > easily controllable, different speeds This is why I like having not just ^f/b full page, {}() paragraph and sentence, and of course j/k line scrolling but also ^u/d half-page scrolling so much that I mapped them it U and D in Zathura and Pentadactyl just for the centimeter of finger movement that saves.
  - meetups323 6y ago
    The funny thing is (){} are much further from where your fingers are at home than the track pad is from your thumbs on space.
    - boogies 6y ago
      {} are approximately as far but they’re in the same direction that your fingers naturally point. () are farther but as words in the languages of vi and vim they're a powerful operator that have no mouse equivalent (unlike w[ords] and {} paragraphs/lines which have double-click and triple-click). Editing the middle of a sentence, then deciding to move it to a footnote is IMO easier with `<Esc>di(}p` or `<Esc>di(Gp`¹ than with `bend thumb/wrist backwards / arm up and to the right, drag thumb to end of sentence, double-click drag to select one word at a time to the other end, release and drag sentence down precise number of lines to next paragraph or all the way to the end of the document (or how I would move the selection, Backspace, PageDown to the end, Shift+Insert)" ¹Let me test that. I like digraphs a heck of a lot more than scrolling through a symbol list btw. This was also a nice use for marks.