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I'm a Mac user, mostly because I like the simplicity of the hardware. If/when I return to Windows, a Framework laptop is definitely appealing. I'd rather chang

I'm a Mac user, mostly because I like the simplicity of the hardware. If/when I return to Windows, a Framework laptop is definitely appealing. I'd rather change the ports than deal with a handful of dongles and adaptors. One thing to consider: I really want to try a laptop that comes with a good, well-supported Linux installation. (I haven't tried desktop Linux since the early 2000s.) I'm less concerned about "distro of my choice," because I really just want something that works well out of the box and is easy to learn.

deadmutex 6y ago
> I'm a Mac user, mostly because I like the simplicity of the hardware. Do you mean software? Or are you referring to the iMac? because on the laptop side, the MacBooks seem very similar in terms of simplicity. Build quality is a different story, etc.
- gwbas1c 6y ago
  > the MacBooks seem very similar in terms of simplicity To the Framework? Oh heck yes! I switched to Mac when the rumors were that Windows Vista was going to be a flop. Today, I like MacOS better than Windows 10, but Windows 10 is very nice.
smoldesu 6y ago
Side note, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised with how far Linux has come. I recently returned to it for the first time in a decade, and it's pretty remarkable how mature the operating system is. Almost all of my "essential" apps have native versions (eg. Matrix, Spotify, Discord, Steam) and the ones that don't can be pretty easily emulated through Wine. It only took 2 weeks of playing around with KDE on my Macbook before I put it on my desktop as well. 2 months later, I'm still loving the decision.
- gwbas1c 6y ago
  Which distro?
  - xur17 6y ago
    I've been using Ubuntu for years now, and honestly it's pretty set and forget at this point. Main caveat is that you should do a little bit of research beforehand to ensure it will work well. It still has some quirks at time, but honestly my Macbook I used at my last job had just as many quirks.
    - jerrygoyal 6y ago
      Interesting. What are some things you wish could still be better in Ubuntu?
  - neop1x 6y ago
    I have been happily using KDE on Arch Linux for many years as well. Just two times I saw what seemed to be an xorg glitch which required powering off and on the display output via xrandr over SSH. And MTP (android file transfer) implementation under KDE is not ideal, it sometimes freezes or behaves weirdly. ADB CLI helps in such cases, though. Other than that it's a pretty solid and usable system. If you decide to use Linux, make sure your HW is well supported. For example AMD seems to be better choice over nVidia or even Intel.

deadmutex 6y ago

> I'm a Mac user, mostly because I like the simplicity of the hardware. Do you mean software? Or are you referring to the iMac? because on the laptop side, the MacBooks seem very similar in terms of simplicity. Build quality is a different story, etc.

gwbas1c 6y ago
> the MacBooks seem very similar in terms of simplicity To the Framework? Oh heck yes! I switched to Mac when the rumors were that Windows Vista was going to be a flop. Today, I like MacOS better than Windows 10, but Windows 10 is very nice.

smoldesu 6y ago

Side note, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised with how far Linux has come. I recently returned to it for the first time in a decade, and it's pretty remarkable how mature the operating system is. Almost all of my "essential" apps have native versions (eg. Matrix, Spotify, Discord, Steam) and the ones that don't can be pretty easily emulated through Wine. It only took 2 weeks of playing around with KDE on my Macbook before I put it on my desktop as well. 2 months later, I'm still loving the decision.

gwbas1c 6y ago
Which distro?
- xur17 6y ago
  I've been using Ubuntu for years now, and honestly it's pretty set and forget at this point. Main caveat is that you should do a little bit of research beforehand to ensure it will work well. It still has some quirks at time, but honestly my Macbook I used at my last job had just as many quirks.
  - jerrygoyal 6y ago
    Interesting. What are some things you wish could still be better in Ubuntu?
- neop1x 6y ago
  I have been happily using KDE on Arch Linux for many years as well. Just two times I saw what seemed to be an xorg glitch which required powering off and on the display output via xrandr over SSH. And MTP (android file transfer) implementation under KDE is not ideal, it sometimes freezes or behaves weirdly. ADB CLI helps in such cases, though. Other than that it's a pretty solid and usable system. If you decide to use Linux, make sure your HW is well supported. For example AMD seems to be better choice over nVidia or even Intel.