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And it's ripe for a lightweight alternative that gets customers that want the fast, basic set of bug tracking features. Jira is horrific.

laurent92 6y ago
People have always said that ;) but Jira is super-expensive. It was $60 per user (permanent), and they’ve increased the prices a lot. Especially since you buy Confluence and all the little addons separately.
thitcanh 6y ago
Horrific but people keep buying it. From Jira’s owner POV, Jira is pretty great.
mritchie712 6y ago
https://linear.app/ https://linear.app/
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TameAntelope 6y ago
I find the most common source of Jira-hate is a combined refusal to leave many of its features on the table by management and general ignorance about how little Jira actually imposes on you by the gangpressed users. Most of that bloat you have to deal with? Blame your bosses, not Atlassian.
- Nullabillity 6y ago
  Jira is a bloated piece of garbage out of the box. It doesn't need PHB configuration to get there.
  - servercobra 6y ago
    Exactly. Brand new project, no configuration? Runs like trash. And then you add in all the manager/PM overhead.
    - TameAntelope 6y ago
      Not my experience at all, have you used Jira in the last 5 years?
      - Nullabillity 6y ago
        I have. New account, greenfield project, the org had never touched it before, and we only had a double-digit number of issues. Every page load still took 30+ seconds.
        TameAntelope 6y ago
        Jira Cloud?
        Nullabillity 6y ago
        Yup. About a year ago.
        TameAntelope 6y ago
        Yeah, I think that was a widespread issue, fair enough.
      - albedoa 6y ago
        Why, is not using it recently the second most common source of Jira hate?
- httpsterio 6y ago
  I used Jira last year for a project at my work, set up a totally new environment and it ran like garbage. Each page load took seconds and every task required several page loads, often had to do a few extra because the UX was rather horrid and had to look for stuff.
radicalriddler 6y ago
Especially now that Jira is removing it's self hosted option, someone should be able to come and fill that niche. It'd be surprising to me if that niche is unmaintainable these days.
- DrBazza 6y ago
  The irony isn't lost on me, that at a previous employer, back in the early 2000s, I introduced the self-hosted version of Jira in to the company, because the alternatives were so bad and slow. How history repeats itself.

laurent92 6y ago

People have always said that ;) but Jira is super-expensive. It was $60 per user (permanent), and they’ve increased the prices a lot. Especially since you buy Confluence and all the little addons separately.

thitcanh 6y ago

Horrific but people keep buying it. From Jira’s owner POV, Jira is pretty great.

mritchie712 6y ago

https://linear.app/ https://linear.app/

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TameAntelope 6y ago

I find the most common source of Jira-hate is a combined refusal to leave many of its features on the table by management and general ignorance about how little Jira actually imposes on you by the gangpressed users. Most of that bloat you have to deal with? Blame your bosses, not Atlassian.

Nullabillity 6y ago
Jira is a bloated piece of garbage out of the box. It doesn't need PHB configuration to get there.
- servercobra 6y ago
  Exactly. Brand new project, no configuration? Runs like trash. And then you add in all the manager/PM overhead.
  - TameAntelope 6y ago
    Not my experience at all, have you used Jira in the last 5 years?
    - Nullabillity 6y ago
      I have. New account, greenfield project, the org had never touched it before, and we only had a double-digit number of issues. Every page load still took 30+ seconds.
      - TameAntelope 6y ago
        Jira Cloud?
        Nullabillity 6y ago
        Yup. About a year ago.
        TameAntelope 6y ago
        Yeah, I think that was a widespread issue, fair enough.
    - albedoa 6y ago
      Why, is not using it recently the second most common source of Jira hate?
httpsterio 6y ago
I used Jira last year for a project at my work, set up a totally new environment and it ran like garbage. Each page load took seconds and every task required several page loads, often had to do a few extra because the UX was rather horrid and had to look for stuff.

radicalriddler 6y ago

Especially now that Jira is removing it's self hosted option, someone should be able to come and fill that niche. It'd be surprising to me if that niche is unmaintainable these days.

DrBazza 6y ago
The irony isn't lost on me, that at a previous employer, back in the early 2000s, I introduced the self-hosted version of Jira in to the company, because the alternatives were so bad and slow. How history repeats itself.