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No information about pricing?

by adenozine 6y ago

sturza 6y ago
does not matter
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago
  In what way?
  - sturza 6y ago
    it will be expensive because it liiks like the first teuly modular laptop. it will get cheaper if it has a big enough market. so in a long enough time frame it does not matter
    - imwillofficial 6y ago
      It does when payday rolls around ;)
    - tluyben2 6y ago
      I couldn't see it from the introduction, but is it differently modular than old Lenovo's? Like the X220 which I use as daily driver? I guess the flexible ports layout is different but the X220 has enough anyway.
    - whoisburbansky 6y ago
      Founder in sister thread explicitly says they aren’t planning on charging a premium for longevity. Besides, even at Apple level prices, a perpetually upgradable system essentially pays for itself eventually.
    - SilverRed 6y ago
      Its not the first. We have seen modular designs over and over again. Here is a very similar idea from 2016 https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop We have also seen multiple failed attempts at modular phones. Ultimately, the problem with repair is not about making it easy enough for grandma to swap out a part. Its about making sure repair stores have the ability to source replacement parts. Its pretty easy to do almost any repair if you have the tools and parts but there is no way you are finding a new IC that fried on your 5 year old laptop.
nrp 6y ago
Framework founder here. We'll be announcing pricing shortly before we open pre-orders this spring. We won't be asking consumers to pay a premium for longevity, and will be setting pricing to be comparable to other popular notebooks using the same silicon.
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago
  What about shipping and deliveries to regions other than US, like EU for example? How will your volumes look during this silicon shortage?
  - nrp 6y ago
    We're shipping in the US and Canada this summer and opening up additional countries in Europe and Asia before the end of the year. In the future, we will launch modules and products worldwide closer to the same date, but we're pacing ourselves on inventory on the first launch. We placed our forecasts and risk buys on most chips early in anticipation of the silicon crunch that is coming this year. So far, we don't see anything that puts us at risk, short of there being massive unexpected upside on consumer demand (a good problem to have!).
    - lovelyviking 6y ago
      Finally! This is amazing what you do! I like the philosophy and share values! This is the machine I wish to have and this is the machine I was dreaming to help making. Is there any way one can help/contribute/join? I have knowledge in sw-dev/ hw / design and speak 4 languages. May be there is a way to help distribute them at least?
      - nrp 6y ago
        Thanks! We're continuing to grow the team, and have a bunch of roles open currently: https://jobs.lever.co/framework https://jobs.lever.co/framework
- f6v 6y ago

No information about pricing?

sturza 6y ago

does not matter

ChuckNorris89 6y ago
In what way?
- sturza 6y ago
  it will be expensive because it liiks like the first teuly modular laptop. it will get cheaper if it has a big enough market. so in a long enough time frame it does not matter
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    It does when payday rolls around ;)
  - tluyben2 6y ago
    I couldn't see it from the introduction, but is it differently modular than old Lenovo's? Like the X220 which I use as daily driver? I guess the flexible ports layout is different but the X220 has enough anyway.
  - whoisburbansky 6y ago
    Founder in sister thread explicitly says they aren’t planning on charging a premium for longevity. Besides, even at Apple level prices, a perpetually upgradable system essentially pays for itself eventually.
  - SilverRed 6y ago
    Its not the first. We have seen modular designs over and over again. Here is a very similar idea from 2016 https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop We have also seen multiple failed attempts at modular phones. Ultimately, the problem with repair is not about making it easy enough for grandma to swap out a part. Its about making sure repair stores have the ability to source replacement parts. Its pretty easy to do almost any repair if you have the tools and parts but there is no way you are finding a new IC that fried on your 5 year old laptop.

nrp 6y ago

Framework founder here. We'll be announcing pricing shortly before we open pre-orders this spring. We won't be asking consumers to pay a premium for longevity, and will be setting pricing to be comparable to other popular notebooks using the same silicon.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago
What about shipping and deliveries to regions other than US, like EU for example? How will your volumes look during this silicon shortage?
- nrp 6y ago
  We're shipping in the US and Canada this summer and opening up additional countries in Europe and Asia before the end of the year. In the future, we will launch modules and products worldwide closer to the same date, but we're pacing ourselves on inventory on the first launch. We placed our forecasts and risk buys on most chips early in anticipation of the silicon crunch that is coming this year. So far, we don't see anything that puts us at risk, short of there being massive unexpected upside on consumer demand (a good problem to have!).
  - lovelyviking 6y ago
    Finally! This is amazing what you do! I like the philosophy and share values! This is the machine I wish to have and this is the machine I was dreaming to help making. Is there any way one can help/contribute/join? I have knowledge in sw-dev/ hw / design and speak 4 languages. May be there is a way to help distribute them at least?
    - nrp 6y ago
      Thanks! We're continuing to grow the team, and have a bunch of roles open currently: https://jobs.lever.co/framework https://jobs.lever.co/framework
f6v 6y ago