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> I pay nearly 150 / month in health insurance, my employer pays another heap Not to digress too much, but it’s worth pointing out that it is you who is paying
by balfirevic 6y ago
> I pay nearly 150 / month in health insurance, my employer pays another heap
Not to digress too much, but it’s worth pointing out that it is you who is paying for both parts, even if only half of it gets listed on your salary slip.
- jbn 6y agoYes! this cannot be highlighted enough. It is scandalous that this is not listed on salary slips, this is an invisible tax and it makes people think insurance and health care have little cost.
- rory 6y agoThe same thing is done with Social Security and Medicare in the US. I hate it when governments try to obfuscate things like this.
- jbn 6y agoin the US, the employer also pays a share of the employment tax (split in 2 between employer and employee) and doesn't always show you the true cost of benefits... all of these should appear and employee should be able negotiate the complete package (wishful thinking...). I'm sure many countries do the same. See https://entreprise.pole-emploi.fr/cout-salarie/ https://entreprise.pole-emploi.fr/cout-salarie/ for the true costs in France...
- Taylor_OD 6y agoYup. My first time being in a leadership position I pushed to get better health insurance and to have my company pay for more of it. The CEO said something to the effect of, "This will be a 2% raise for our employees" which was true but not how I or probably any of the employees would have looked at it.
- eeZah7Ux 6y agoNo, it's wrong: the employer is paying. The same goes for personal VS corporate taxes. They apply financial pressures on different spots. Unsurprisingly, they have different effects on increasing o decreasing inequality.
- balfirevic 6y agoNo matter where you decide to draw the line that delineates which part of health insurance is paid by you vs. by employer - the amount of money that employer parted with, the amount of money in your pocket and the amount of money in healthcare budget remain the same.
- durnygbur 6y agoThere are two "sliders" - net salary, gross salary, then the total cost of the salary to the employer on top of the gross salary. One starting a job negotiates the gross salary. In EU positioning of these two "sliders" varies widely from country to country and one could rarely have mistaken impression that the contributions and deductions are low.
- eeZah7Ux 6y ago...but various balances of power change greatly.